Any TAs been through the council job evaluation ?

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Just wondered what approach different areas have taken. We have just been given Job Profiles with ridiculous statements on them, clearly done by someone who has no idea what we do. They follow the council 13 criteria - which don't really allow for what we do. Any feedback appreciated

there was anotherthrad earlier on public sector evaluations - asking pretty much the same thing

i know rhubarb is a TA - but shes notbeen on recently - maybe she could help?

i will tell her

thankyou I know there is an appeal process but our school is so crap - I think the HT thinks we just do colouring in

i had an appraisel and some of the competancies set were not designed for my job - therfore i appealed that they couldn't possibly be counted one way or the other.

the thing is the way the fucking thing is scored!!! v. clever... turns out the boss goes on trainingand its v. wink and a nod - the more the masses get the less you get......

anyway enough of my guevara esqness

I'm in secondary & it has stupid things in it like 'some initiative' is required (ie not very much!), we have 'minimal' exposure to people with disagreeable behaviour, limited emotional demands etc - obviously never been into some Year 11 classes ! It's actually insulting

have told her, she said she might pop on later after some wine!

thanks...I know the feeling

You can appeal. Are you with a Union? I suggest you get a group of you, go through the job evaluation, and put it in a letter with bullet points about what they say you do and what you actually do.

Ask them too, where the evidence has come from for the evaluation. Have they got this info from your school? Have they been in any lessons? If not then perhaps you could invite them in to speak to some TAs and sit in some lessons to see exactly what it is that you do.

They might say "well you are only expected to do what is in the job description, anything extra comes in off your own back", if that is the case you might have to consider doing exactly that, just what is on the job description, no more and no less, until they reconsider. But I would strongly advise a word with Unison first.

I just wondered what forms / evaluations other schools had used & what the outcome was. We are all miffed at the mo as L2s are expected to do regular cover & suprise suprise, that sort of stuff doesn't come up on these crappy forms

Well I'm an LSA so don't work on quite the same scale I don't suppose.

I would pull a job description from your HR dept or from the internet and produce this as evidence of what you are expected to do.

Not had any questionnaires to fill in, sorry.

Just to let you know that TAs and LMs I work with (LEA not school) do same job on same pay scale with same job description.....

came back on 2 different grades, and with 3 diff point scores for the LMs. When someone pointed out the inconsistency they were all moved to the lowest score !

Our authority has now decided that all TAs/LMs etc in schools are not employed by the authority, but by the schools, and have washed their hands of the whole business.... we have 460 schools (10,000+ staff inc teachers)

That's interesting! The head is trying to make out that really it's just a paper excercise & it won't make a difference to anyones pay - but we won't sign something thats not correct

Well- our authority are saying that schools are employing their own staff, so they make the pay rates themselves.

I know that at the school where I'm a governor, we will not let people's pay go down.
The problem is that the exercise is supposed to be about same pay for the same job...but if you let every school set their own rates...how is that equal????

We got sent a draft job description for our job (CS), and it just wasn't appropriate for what we do. So we rejected it and they sent us another which was better, but hadn't been assessed/graded. That was about 8 months ago and we haven't heard anything since.

The librarians, TAs and other support staff have all had theirs sorted by now.