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No end of year school report

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mushypeaa · 20/07/2023 17:29

My daughters started a new primary school just after the may half term due to a house move. Reports were due out on Monday. I'm still getting used to the systems at the school so thought it was an oversight and I hadn't collected it or signed up to the right portal etc. it turns out that it is school policy that they don't write reports for someone starting in the last half term.

Is this right? I totally understand they haven't known them very long so it wouldn't be the most detailed report but I thought end of year reports were statutory? Should their previous school have written one? Or do they just not get one this year?

I would like them to have one but know It's not the end of the world not to get one and I'm very conscious it's basically the end of the year and if I was to chase one up it would most likely be futile.

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Caravanvirgin · 20/07/2023 19:46

I don’t think end of year reports are statutory as many schools stagger them throughout the year.

orangeleavesinautumn · 20/07/2023 19:48

They were written weeks ago, so not only did nobody know much about your child when it was written, but also one can't be rustled up when a parent contacts the school and asks for one.

Just email the teacher and ask for an update on how she is settling in

LacieLane · 20/07/2023 20:57

I spent half term in June writing reports, your daughter wouldn't have been with me.
No statutory requirement.

Perhaps a conversation with school would give you an update as to how your daughter has settled.

FloweryName · 20/07/2023 21:04

Reports are often written over the May/June half term or around that time so that there is time for them to be checked, edited, signed off by the HT etc. At the time the teacher was writing end of year reports, they may well never have met your child.

They can tell you how your child has settled at pick up, but they haven’t worked with your child for long enough to be able to write a proper report.

cansu · 20/07/2023 21:05

Your child's old school can provide one.

Sherrystrull · 20/07/2023 21:25

I agree the previous school should have written one for you before she left.

mushypeaa · 20/07/2023 22:07

Thank you for replying.

I definitely understand the new teachers wouldn't know my girls very well. I was expecting quite a generic ones with maybe some comments from the handover they received from the previous school about their attainment, but just because I thought they had to provide a report. Actually I think I thought just someone had to provide a report, whether it was them or the previous school.

But now there is no reports and everything I Google doesn't really answer the question. Would it even be worth my time approaching the previous school? Thankfully I'm happy with how the girls are doing at school, how they've settled etc that I'm not concerned with anything, I was just surprised that there's no overview of their time at school this year as I thought it was statutory? I'm a right thinking now, that legally in some circumstances no one has to provide one?

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orangeleavesinautumn · 20/07/2023 22:31

no one has to provide one

RhosynBach · 20/07/2023 22:35

I think you’ll have to let it go. Old school didn’t need to provide one because they’d left. New school didn’t know them when they wrote them. Maybe just ask for a chat with class teacher to check if they’re settling in ok and attaining well enough.

strawberryandcreams · 20/07/2023 22:36

I think you should contact your old school and ask for a report if poss. I've never considered this! My daughter moved classes within the same school for final term but the previous teacher wrote her report. Which is what I would have expected

orangeleavesinautumn · 21/07/2023 00:05

strawberryandcreams · 20/07/2023 22:36

I think you should contact your old school and ask for a report if poss. I've never considered this! My daughter moved classes within the same school for final term but the previous teacher wrote her report. Which is what I would have expected

It is not going to happen, how could it happen now? Reports were written weeks ago, time is directed for it, policies agreed for it, procedures for production are put in place for it, QA is performed, data that was used will no longer be available, there will be no directed time left for any of the people who need to be involved in it, at least 4...

It is not going to happen. Who and when do you think would do it, and with what?

prh47bridge · 21/07/2023 00:17

The Education (Pupil Information) (England) Regulations 2005 require the head teacher of a maintained school (i.e. any school that is not an academy or independent school) to provide a report to the parents prior to the end of the summer term of every school year for every registered pupil at the school. The regulations set out the required contents of the report. This can take the form of multiple reports throughout the year, provided parents receive all the prescribed information by the end of the summer term. Parents must be given a chance to discuss the report with the pupil's teacher. There is no exemption for pupils starting in the summer term. If this is a maintained school (i.e. not an academy), its policy appears to be unlawful.

If it is an academy, the requirements are somewhat looser. An academy must provide an annual report, but there is no requirement to provide it prior to the end of the summer term. Also, an academy is not required to provide all of the information that a maintained school must provide.

ConnieTucker · 21/07/2023 06:52

orangeleavesinautumn · 21/07/2023 00:05

It is not going to happen, how could it happen now? Reports were written weeks ago, time is directed for it, policies agreed for it, procedures for production are put in place for it, QA is performed, data that was used will no longer be available, there will be no directed time left for any of the people who need to be involved in it, at least 4...

It is not going to happen. Who and when do you think would do it, and with what?

Directed time for reports? Really? Is that a primary thing? I actually dont believe this haopens.

mushypeaa · 21/07/2023 07:08

@prh47bridge that's interesting thank you.
I couldn't see anything when I searched about children who started in the summer term. It is a maintained school and so was the previous school.

Thank you everyone else for the replies. Like I said before I'm happy with the school, about my girls attainment and how they've settled (from conversations with the teacher and pick up). I think I'll enquire about my youngests end of ks1 results and that will be that as it sounds like a message coming down from the head but two teachers will be starting their summer holidays writing reports even though they're just the messenger which feels a bit mean (whether it's this school or the last school).

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orangeleavesinautumn · 21/07/2023 07:21

mushypeaa · 21/07/2023 07:08

@prh47bridge that's interesting thank you.
I couldn't see anything when I searched about children who started in the summer term. It is a maintained school and so was the previous school.

Thank you everyone else for the replies. Like I said before I'm happy with the school, about my girls attainment and how they've settled (from conversations with the teacher and pick up). I think I'll enquire about my youngests end of ks1 results and that will be that as it sounds like a message coming down from the head but two teachers will be starting their summer holidays writing reports even though they're just the messenger which feels a bit mean (whether it's this school or the last school).

they will have no directed time left, and if they receive such instructions, they would need to contact their union. Any such instruction would break the teacher's terms and conditions

EdithGrantham · 21/07/2023 07:28

One of the schools will have had to submit her end-of-year data to the LA to say whether she was "Expected" or "Emerging" against the early learning goals. I can't recall the exact date for cut-off but I think as she moved after half term it will have been the previous school so you'll need to get in touch with them. It won't be a full report, just a 1 (emerging) or 2 (expected) against each area.

PriamFarrl · 21/07/2023 07:29

mushypeaa · 21/07/2023 07:08

@prh47bridge that's interesting thank you.
I couldn't see anything when I searched about children who started in the summer term. It is a maintained school and so was the previous school.

Thank you everyone else for the replies. Like I said before I'm happy with the school, about my girls attainment and how they've settled (from conversations with the teacher and pick up). I think I'll enquire about my youngests end of ks1 results and that will be that as it sounds like a message coming down from the head but two teachers will be starting their summer holidays writing reports even though they're just the messenger which feels a bit mean (whether it's this school or the last school).

So you want some teachers to do work for free, during their holidays, for you?

While I think you should have had a report, I don’t think you are in a position to request a full one now. I’d email the teacher and as for a few comments.

EdithGrantham · 21/07/2023 07:29

Sorry, ignore my post, I thought you said your youngest was in Reception. None of what I have said applies 🙈

howshouldibehave · 21/07/2023 07:33

but two teachers will be starting their summer holidays writing reports even though they're just the messenger which feels a bit mean

But you’re going to do it anyway?

NeverDropYourMooncup · 21/07/2023 07:35

Handover from the previous school? We might get details of attendance and free school meals uploaded, and if there's a child protection file, they'll let us know to request a transfer of that, but schools don't generally share anything.

orangeleavesinautumn · 21/07/2023 07:36

howshouldibehave · 21/07/2023 07:33

but two teachers will be starting their summer holidays writing reports even though they're just the messenger which feels a bit mean

But you’re going to do it anyway?

I sincerely hope not, it won't go down well, and it won't be forgotten either. And personally, I would just refuse, so a load of bad feeling created for nothing

orangeleavesinautumn · 21/07/2023 07:37

Even if you do get a report, you will never know if it actually refers to your child or not

BelindaBears · 21/07/2023 08:13

My child’s report was written by her old teacher who left at the end of April. The reports were probably written before your children even started at this school.

prh47bridge · 21/07/2023 08:36

NeverDropYourMooncup · 21/07/2023 07:35

Handover from the previous school? We might get details of attendance and free school meals uploaded, and if there's a child protection file, they'll let us know to request a transfer of that, but schools don't generally share anything.

The regulations I referred to earlier set out what is to happen when a pupil changes schools. The old school must, within 15 days, pass over the pupil's educational record and the common transfer file. The educational record is pretty much any information held by the school about the pupil apart from anything held by a teacher for their own use. The contents of the common transfer file are set out at The Education (Pupil Information) (England) Regulations 2005 (legislation.gov.uk). If all you get is details of attendance and free school meals, the previous school is clearly acting unlawfully.

The Education (Pupil Information) (England) Regulations 2005

These Regulations revoke and re-enact with modifications the Education (Pupil Information) (England) Regulations 2000.

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2005/1437/schedule/2