Do you realise how the lack of SEN provision affects YOUR child's education?

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I often wonder about this. I'm a primary school teacher who has taught multiple classes now that included multiple children with SEN. The parents of the classes I've taught have no idea how much their children's education has been disrupted.

For example, instead of teaching the children, I'm regularly having to restrain or carry children from the classroom to stop them assaulting other children (yes, other children do get assaulted sometimes and we have to keep it on the downlow as much as possible).

During lessons, a child will be sat there swearing or shouting out rude/silly words, just trying to get a reaction. Other days, a child might be running around the classroom laughing their head off for the whole lesson. Or banging something against the wall while I try to give the input. Or climbing on high windowsills in the classroom. Or trying to kick other children. Or sticking their hand down their pants and then putting it in other children's faces. I really could go on and on.

I spend so so so much time dealing with this incidents instead of teaching and helping other children. Every day.

Basically, these children are not receiving suitable provision for their needs. They are not in the right place. It is chaos.

Parents, do you know this is going on in your child's school? Do you really not mind?

You think we have a full choice about what school will take our kids?

And what can we do? I feel desperate for these kids who are being let down so badly but there are no special school places and no money to send them there. The whole system is utterly fucked and it’s the kids (all of them) who are suffering 😢.

Complain!
Not to the school but to your MP. They need pressure from parents because they sure as hell aren't listening to teachers.

Of course I mind!

I have two children, one with ASD and one NT. My ASD child is absolutely not receiving the education they are entitled to. We have spent thousands of pounds and thousands of hours trying to get him the support he needs, but to no avail.

I work in education, I know how dire the situation is for all involved.

What would you have me do?

Yes I'm aware. Ds2 is NT and a very easy child. His primary back then and secondary classes now have lots of SN children who are not properly supported and are thus very disruptive. Makes me very cross. Cross for parents of a SN child. Cross for parents of a NT child. So wrong. Never gonna change though. We all know this.

I don't believe there is anything like this happening at our school, it is a very small village school with only about 50 pupils though.

My son has autism and ADHD but he is not generally disruptive. I have discussed with the SENCO at his school my concerns about him going to secondary school in a couple of years and asked her if she thought a special school might be more appropriate for him. She said that she didn't think it would be. She said he'd be out of place in a special school as he is a bright child. If special school's aren't suitable and neither is mainstream then where can he go?

Ah, just what we needed: yet another goady thread, bashing disabled children and pitting them against non-disabled children and their parents, from a poster with no history.

Why do You think parents don’t know or don’t care? Most are doing their best with the resources they have. You don’t know what other priorities they have over and above the difficulties you describe in their child’s classroom. You may think it should be their top priority, campaigning or whatever you think would be best, and some will be doing that, but for the rest you don’t know what else they have going on. You don’t get to make an accusatory “do you really not mind?”

No one here is bashing disabled children. Don't make things up.
I'm a regular Mumsnet user who named changed so people like you can't investigate my previous posts like some sort of Mumsnet police.

Do you really not mind?
I sense the OP is being somewhat disingenuous as well as cynical here.

Thanks to all who reported this thread. While we're sure many parents here can attest to the lack of SEN provision, we're not so sure that a thread positioned like this will do much more than upset people. Please consider the difficulties parents of SN children face in trying to secure the correct provision for their child.

We're closing this now.