Teachers - have you any opinions about NLP?

[Donk]

I was wondering if anyone knows the book 'NLP for Teachers: How to Be a Highly Effective Teacher'; and if so, then what do you think of it?

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DH has had training days related to this and now knows to say to his students, "I need you sit down" rather than "I want you to sit down" Is this what you meant?

the sort of thing that crops up in training days on behaviour. OK but not the holy grail, I think

never heard of it! what's nlp?

Neurolinguistic programing.

How to get to yes sort of stuff

I wan't thinking it was the Holy Grail - just wondering what NLP was about.

Does NLP have any research base or is it 'pop psychobabble' ?

isn't it also to do with how kids learn? auditory, visually, kinaes thingy.... or was I asleep at a relevant bit?

aricle on it from the TES here

not sure how much long term work there is on it.

no lucy, you dropped off during Gardeners theory of multiple intelegences

and who can blame you.

BTW meta analysis of VAK shows it has little long term benefit on learning

Thanks for the link MB - maybe I'll try to get the book from the library and form an opinion for myself!

I think it is one of a long list of things that has its place IYSWIM. But some people can get rather too worked up about it.

What's VAK

It sounds (like many things) as though some people get rather over-enthusiastic.....
but will do some reading and see.

Different styles of learning, Visual, auditory , kinesthetic (Gardener lists more than these including emotional and musical intellegences)

again, its something good to keep in mind when planning lessons, to ensure good variety. It can backfire if kids get a label, 'I'm not writing, I'm a kinesthetic learner' that sort of thing

VAK is the theory that everyone has a prefered mode of learning - visual, auditory or kinaesthetic (movement).
AFAIK there is more evidence that some things are best learnt through a particular mode/modes than that individual learners are best sticking with 'their' mode. Also that involving more than one mode of learning may make things more memorable!

Gardiner's Theory of Multiple Intelligences! I see you & raise you an Edward de Bono & his amazing thinking hats!

My BIL used to be quite involved in NLP. He's now a little disillusioned.

From a teacher's POV, some useful tools I think, but not the answer to everything...eg. I often say 'Can you take your coat off [or whatever]. Thank you' rather than 'Can you take your coat off please', because the former creates an expectation that they'll do it. According to BIL that's very NLP!

MB, slightly off-topic but you might like this. I was once asked to interview a student who had failed her first year of medical school to see if we could possibly allow her to switch to another degree programme - the department she wanted to go into was not at all keen on her - and she told me that she had failed all her exams, and placements, and practical work, because she had a "deep style of learning" which the MBChB did not accommodate.

Thanks. I've heard of NLP. I knew someone who was very keen. Something about reflecting the person's style.

And then of course there is Tony Buzan and his 'radiant thinking'

Oh yes Donk, Mind Maps ahoy, lots of coloured markers and big sheets of paper.

Never mind these theories, the thing they really need to get sorted is rockets which can be inserted into the rear orifice of a signficant number of children. That really would then imporve the quality of their learning and the effectiveness of my teaching. Obvioulsy I am not personally going to be responsible for the actual insertion...

I'm smug bitch atm, and all the lurverly kids in set 7/8 in year 1o who were supposed to get a C in the test actually got a C, which is a first for them, Bu george I think they are getting it at last!

Buyt when you find the rockets, can you give some to me!?

I lurve NLP, I use it more with the staff than the students
the 'modality' stuff is really good, you can use the right "sense" vocab to describe or explain stuff to someone when you know what their preference is and it can be really effective. I have a few books on it, the best being"Teach yourself NLP" by steve bavister and amanda vickers. Totally straightforward explanation.