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Proper books for kids not boys or girls!

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thedamage · 03/02/2008 20:02

I'm fed up.

I'm looking for children's books that are not 'regular'.
I have two girls and they're going to grow up to always know that they can do everything that men will do and that women are smarter than men.

So what really grates my goatee (I'm a femanist bloke) is that most books with girl leads are pink and prissy.

Essentially, can you recommend any books that go against the grain? I mean books that show girls as tomboys and wrestlers etc. I seem to remember a book in sweden that also talked about homeless people. We read something called 'alfie atkins' which is about a single dad with his son.

My girls are 9months and 3 yrs.

Cheers.

Has anyone ever thought why this site is called 'mumsnet?' Why is it that dads are not included. Ah, sorry for my ranting. I'll be at home with my two girls for the next year and a half cause no one will give me that time back in my life.

Even on Radio 4 you have women's hour! They were talking about looking after parents there and just assumed that women would do it'. Pathetic!! ... end of rant...

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Reallytired · 03/02/2008 20:12

I think its a pity if your girls think that women are smarter than men. I think that is very bit as bad as bring up a son to think that women are inferior.

I think that girls should be taught to see boys as equals. I certainly don't want my son to feel he is inferior to girls.

I agree with you that parenting is not just for women. My son has a doll and I want him to see looking after children as a good thing to do. I agree with you that its unfortunate the website is called Mumsnet. If it was called "Parentsnet" it would be better.

Anyway my son is reading a book called "Jane and the Dragon". Its about a girl who becomes a knight, rescues a prince and becomes friends with a dragon.

www.walkerbooks.co.uk/Jane-and-the-Dragon-1406305278

teakettle · 03/02/2008 20:12

calm down

There is a dadsnet section to mumsnet although dads can and do post wherever they want.

some woman are smarter than some men but if you think all women are smarter than men then you clearly haven't met my SIL. Women do have a broader range of personality types do to our superior X chromosome.

womens hour is aimed at women and most care roles within families are done by women. It is natural for a women's programme to reflect that.

I am going to look for some books for you now.

nooka · 03/02/2008 20:16

Sad you want to bring your girls up to be sexist! Can't they grow up thinking that men and women are equal but different?

Anyway re. books, there is a whole variety for really small children that don't have much stereotyping because they aren't focused on families. I find that spending time in a good bookshop is the way to sort out what you are comfortable reading to your children. For older children I am reading my two the Joan Aitkin series which mainly feature girls as excellently "plucky" lead charactors. I think you'll find loads of stuff if you look around - but don't be too surprised if your girls turn out to love pink fluff (mine does and believe me it's not something I have ever encouraged) but then one of the nice things about having had a generation of feminists pave the way is that our girls should be able to be both feminine (if they want to be) and do whatever they want (whether it be wrestling, train driving or running the world).

teakettle · 03/02/2008 20:26

ruby's wish about the first girl in her family to be allowed to go to school with her brothers.

7 chinese sisters the sisters all have different skill, based on 7 chinese brothers story

femminist folk tales

forgot your skirt

You will find that when they get to chapter books there is lots of choice wherever their interest lies.

Hulababy · 03/02/2008 20:29

My 5yo DD has a book called princess Smartypants which she enjoys a lot. It is about a princess who doesn't want to get married and prefers to spend time with her animals. She wants to stay a Ms. Her parents, the king and queen, try to set her up with suitors but she sets hard challenges for them all that they all fail. Then one prince coems and manages then all, so sheturns him int a toad - then no one will marry her and she is happy.

mrsruffallo · 03/02/2008 20:32

Night Pirates is a good one- about a band of tough girl pirates.
There a lot of books tbh.

Your comments are v strange- I have a son and a daughter and I wouldn't feel it necessary to teach either of them that they were superior due to the sex they were born!
There are better ways to make your dc assertive and confident than putting down 50% of the human race.
I agree that there are many bad influences for girls- my dd wants a barbie because her friends have one for example, but they are just children and a lot of the girly stuff is just imagination/ fantasy. My dd loves dinosaurs and
Mummies too for example.
Sorry, I have gone on a bit!

Hallgerda · 03/02/2008 20:52

Hulababy, I love Princess Smartypants so much I've given it to a few friends as a wedding present

nooka · 03/02/2008 21:04

I really dislike - Princess Smartypants she's so mean! I feel the need to tell ds/dd that no-one in their right mind would want to marry her

Madsometimes · 04/02/2008 10:48

Bel Mooney has written a series of books about a feisy girl called Kitty who would not dream of wearing pink frills, but these are more for 6 plus years.

Your three year old will probably enjoy Winnie the Witch.

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