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Can the parents be prosecuted for truancy if a child bunks off year 7 classes to attend year 11 classes

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GPT3 · 28/07/2022 23:22

If a child thinks that her schoolwork is ‘too easy’ and persistently walks into year 11 classes instead of the year 7 classes that she is supposed to attend, is that legally classified as truancy?

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Meem321 · 29/07/2022 16:59

LilyMarshall · 29/07/2022 12:05

If you are using SIMS, yes you can.

If you are using Sims then yes, maybe you can mark them as present. But you shouldn't because the kid isn't where it's supposed to be.

Incidentally, parents wouldn't be fined until a significant percentage of lessons had been truanted... I doubt any school would allow this child, prodigy or not 🙄, to disrupt y11 lessons in this way for a significant period. Therefore it suggests to me that OP is deluded as to the 'genius' of said DC and is thinking of ways to 'stretch' them when they get to senior school.

What a mind numbingly tedious thread... Meanwhile, in Waitrose the OP is watching said child do some magical organic tofu weaving or some such shite.

Maireas · 29/07/2022 16:59

So, no update on the Prodigy?
I think skip yr11 and go straight to yr13.
Or maybe just start the undergraduate programme at Oxford.

carefullycourageous · 29/07/2022 17:03

It isn't absence, the child would have registered at the start of the session. The school are responsible for what happens inside the school.

haveyouopenedyourbowelstoday · 29/07/2022 17:05

This happens to me all the time. So annoying. Tarquin absolutely loves his prep school but keeps disappearing into the Year 6 class to help them solve their quadratic equations. In Latin.
He's only in nursery but he gets so bored. I'm shocked a school that I have to pay for can't meet his needs.
I hear you OP. It's the constant challenge of G&T parenting.

Maireas · 29/07/2022 17:06

carefullycourageous · 29/07/2022 17:03

It isn't absence, the child would have registered at the start of the session. The school are responsible for what happens inside the school.

Absolutely. Which is why the child would be hunted down and returned to the correct lesson.

Allmyarseandpeggymartin · 29/07/2022 17:10

I would say I’m here for the deletion message but since we aren’t getting any

MermaidEyes · 29/07/2022 17:24

Maireas · 29/07/2022 16:59

So, no update on the Prodigy?
I think skip yr11 and go straight to yr13.
Or maybe just start the undergraduate programme at Oxford.

OPs child is probably teaching the undergraduate programme at Oxford

Maireas · 29/07/2022 17:26

Yes, that'll be the reason for no update.

maddiemookins16mum · 29/07/2022 17:27

MermaidEyes · 29/07/2022 10:31

I'm genuinely struggling to think of any school where this would even happen....

Waterloo Road?

LilyMarshall · 29/07/2022 18:47

Fuuuuuckit · 29/07/2022 12:49

No SIMS register I've ever taken has an option of easily adding a wayward y7 into a y11 class - yes you can mark the y7 separately as 'present' but only in their original class. And by the time you'd even finished that I'd be raising merry hell about why some self-important y7 had decided to crash my y11 class, causing all sorts of disruption, I'd be calling for year team support and expecting to hear about the consequences/discipline doled out. Internal truancy, disobedience, not following instructions.

It is really simple to do on SIMS when you know how. It is a right click in the correct place and ‘add extra student for this lesson’. Then you just search the name. It adds the student to that class for that one lesson only.

Maireas · 29/07/2022 18:51

But Lily, why would you add a student to your register, though?
Surely, you'd alert the on call team and find out where they should be?

LilyMarshall · 29/07/2022 19:00

Maireas · 29/07/2022 18:51

But Lily, why would you add a student to your register, though?
Surely, you'd alert the on call team and find out where they should be?

there are lots of reasons you might have a student in your room as a one-off. Or have a student move into the class but it hasnt yet been changed on SIMS. But that's not the point at all. A previous poster said adding a student to the register couldnt be done by the teacher. I said it could and explained how. I wasnt making a statement on the fake situation op was talking about. Just that actually, you can add extra students to the class register on SIMS as a one-off, or lesson by lesson basis.

Not all schools have an on-call team. Mine certainly doesn't. If theyre being a nightmare you are stuck with them. SIMS also tells you where the student should actually be.

Maireas · 29/07/2022 19:07

I understand that you'd maybe have an extra child in your classroom, but for safeguarding purposes, you'd be informed?
Not just add a child you weren't expecting?
Anyway. I think none of us are likely to have a yr7 in a yr11 classroom and not deal with it instantly!

Babdoc · 29/07/2022 19:11

My DD used to do this at primary when she found reception boring. She had a reading age of 12 on arrival.
The head solved it by taking her for one to one sessions and reading Dickens with her, and letting her work two years ahead on the maths syllabus, getting textbooks sent along from the secondary school for her final two years of primary.
There wasn’t much point sending her back to reception- she used to correct her teacher’s spelling! But she did sit in the same room as her age group for social reasons, just working separately.
She now has a maths degree and an autism diagnosis.

Letussee · 30/07/2022 11:23

Bonkers. But then it is the summer hols innit, a y11 with time on hands.

Countyforever · 30/07/2022 11:29

Chinny reckon

AncoraAmarena · 30/07/2022 11:51

Babdoc · 29/07/2022 19:11

My DD used to do this at primary when she found reception boring. She had a reading age of 12 on arrival.
The head solved it by taking her for one to one sessions and reading Dickens with her, and letting her work two years ahead on the maths syllabus, getting textbooks sent along from the secondary school for her final two years of primary.
There wasn’t much point sending her back to reception- she used to correct her teacher’s spelling! But she did sit in the same room as her age group for social reasons, just working separately.
She now has a maths degree and an autism diagnosis.

😂

Tintackedsea · 30/07/2022 12:01

They would get their arse handed to them by the teacher if they did that. Parent would be informed about it for behaviour reasons not truancy.

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