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Can the parents be prosecuted for truancy if a child bunks off year 7 classes to attend year 11 classes

93 replies

GPT3 · 28/07/2022 23:22

If a child thinks that her schoolwork is ‘too easy’ and persistently walks into year 11 classes instead of the year 7 classes that she is supposed to attend, is that legally classified as truancy?

OP posts:
titchy · 28/07/2022 23:23

No it's called being a total brat.

elephantoverthehill · 28/07/2022 23:26

The problem is that the child is not in the classroom they are supposed to be in so yes it is technically truanting, just the same as spending the whole of a lesson in the toilets or elsewhere.

Minimalme · 28/07/2022 23:28

If the child is at school, then she is the school's responsibility. I don't see how the parents could be held accountable.

Only on MN would this be a problem...

CatherineCawood · 28/07/2022 23:28

Stealth brag?!

titchy · 28/07/2022 23:30

CatherineCawood · 28/07/2022 23:28

Stealth brag?!

Lol. Not sure anyone would brag about their kid misbehaving.

SylvanianFrenemies · 28/07/2022 23:30

It is classified as being a pain in the arse.

orangeisthenewpuce · 28/07/2022 23:31

Parents can't be prosecuted. The child is still at school.

AmyAnonymous · 28/07/2022 23:31

Ha ha ha like that ever happened.

Skinnermarink · 28/07/2022 23:33

No, it’s classed as fantasy.

Acheyknees · 28/07/2022 23:33

So the year 7 just happens to turn up for year 11 classes? Don't they get told to go back to their correct classroom?

wonderstuff · 28/07/2022 23:36

Registers are done in most schools every lesson, because it’s pretty important we know where kids are. Attendance figures as reported to government are taken from the first lesson in the morning and first after lunch. If a child isn’t in those lessons they potentially will be classed as absent from school and that could trigger legal action. Schools don’t actually want to fine parents though and will try to work with children and families to resolve issues first.

This behaviour will be causing massive disruption and huge amounts of staff time. I’d expect a child doing this to be spending significant time in detention at least, it’s awful behaviour.

HollowTalk · 28/07/2022 23:44

Why would the year 11 teacher allow them to go into their class? If the teacher did think that the child was advanced enough to cope with the class then that would be arranged. It's not for the child to make up their mind on that.

Namenic · 28/07/2022 23:48

Surely it would be a hazard in terms of science practicals and some topics may be more suitable to a more mature audience (eg English literature, history). And there might be a bit of a safeguarding risk being in a class with a lot older kids?

Snargle · 28/07/2022 23:49

I would imagine the Yr11 students would also have had something to say about a Yr7 randomly trying to join their class.

Patapouf · 28/07/2022 23:56

If the kids at school they aren't truanting.

School need to work with parents re:behavioural issues. A year 7 child is old enough to understand behavioural expectations and know which classroom they ought to be in.

noblegiraffe · 29/07/2022 00:30

Y11 haven't been in school for weeks.

HarrietSchulenberg · 29/07/2022 00:53

Missing a lesson without permission is truanting, whether the child is in school buildings or not. No different to hiding in the toilets or skiving behind the bike shed, it's deliberately not attending their timetabled lesson.
I'd be quite concerned about why a Y7 thought they didn't need the knowledge and skills acquired in Ys7-10 but imagined they could cope in a GCSE class. I'd also be mightily pissed off that this child was disrupting the learning of students in their GCSE year by plonking themselves down in their classroom and having to be removed.

CorvusPurpureus · 29/07/2022 01:09

<sigh> every class takes a register.

The teacher would either send the interloper scooting back to their own lesson, where they'd get a bollocking for being late, or if the kid was likely to be a nuisance, send an 'on call' email to have them removed.

Minor point in this fantasy scenario: if y7 had science, say, Monday period 1, y11 would not have 'science' Monday period 1.

Unless all the Science Dept are Timelords, obviously.

Although to be fair y11 buggered off, what, a month ago? Maybe the Science Dept are doing ghost y11 lessons.

We've always side eyed them a bit this time of year from English...'it's not like the properties of bloody manganese need re-writing every year, is it?'

AmyAnonymous · 29/07/2022 01:31

I'm guessing OP is wondering whether to tell her DC to just go to the Yr11 classes. Surely a child wouldn't do this off their own back?!

Op just do what the rest of us parents with bright kids do - talk to the teacher and they'll sort out some extension work for her.

KalvinPhillipsBoots · 29/07/2022 01:44

Take them out and home school them, they cannot fine you if you are providing an education at home.

redskyatnight · 29/07/2022 10:18

How would a Year 7 know where the Year 11 classes were? Year 11s all have individual timetables. If the Year 7 just picked a random older student lesson every time there would be no consistency of teaching at all.

(My daughter is short and looks young for her age; I can confirm that at the start of her Year 11 a number of new teachers checked with her that she was in the right place when she attended her actual lessons, as they mistook her for a younger student. They would not have allowed a student who was genuinely in year 7 and not on the register to stay for more than the time it took to point them in the direction of where they should be. And the Year 11 students would most definitely be doing this if the teacher was not quick enough. So the question of whether or not it was truanting is just irrelevant as it would never happen.)

Bindayagain · 29/07/2022 10:26

Patapouf · 28/07/2022 23:56

If the kids at school they aren't truanting.

School need to work with parents re:behavioural issues. A year 7 child is old enough to understand behavioural expectations and know which classroom they ought to be in.

So if you spend your physics class in the toilets, you're not truanting?

MermaidEyes · 29/07/2022 10:31

I'm genuinely struggling to think of any school where this would even happen....

Fuuuuuckit · 29/07/2022 10:35

titchy · 28/07/2022 23:23

No it's called being a total brat.

First response gets it in one.

She should be disciplined by the school - it would certainly be internal truancy (ie not being in the classroom you're supposed to be in, raises all sorts of safeguarding issues, especially in a fire drill). If the work is too easy this needs to be raised with the teacher to move sets.

Unless dc is a prodigy there's no way a y7 will understand most of y11 maths.

I go for total brat.

NoSquirrels · 29/07/2022 10:37

School would deal with this pretty sharpish. I assume it’s not a scenario that’s actually happening, OP?