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6 Grammar schools accessible from one postcode?

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Indigoo03 · 13/06/2022 06:50

I can't find the original thread though a poster said they were close to six grammar schools? I didn't know that was possible would anyone which areas in England this would be?

I know Buckinghamshire has a lot but even six would be a stretch for accessing from one postcode?

OP posts:
mommandme · 13/06/2022 13:13

I'd go Gloucestershire too. You'd have 6 accessible in a half hour / 40 min drive, if you lived in the right area. Super selective, so no catchments either.

eurochick · 13/06/2022 13:15

LadyJaneHall · 13/06/2022 09:39

Eurochick - This is not the case in Bromley. There are two single sex Grammar schools and those at the other end of the borough are not likely to get in.

But people in Bromley are not limited to schools in that borough. They could apply to the Dartford and Bexleyheath schools too.

Summerwetordry · 13/06/2022 13:46

kairouan · 13/06/2022 06:55

You'd be within easy reach of six grammars in parts of Kent, but they're single sex, so you wouldn't be able to apply to them all for the same child.

Six near me. Two girls, two boys and two co-ed.

Abuildingwith4wallsandtmrinsid · 13/06/2022 21:48

We are in the London Borough of Bromley in Bickley/Chislehurst borders and for boys had access to Kent test (Dartford Grammar and Judd, if high scorer), St Olave’s close by, Bexley test (in catchment for Beths and Sid&Chis where we are) plus some do sit Sutton for eg Wilsons etc too. So for our postcode that is true. Similar for girls (Newstead, TOGS in Tonbridge, Townley, Dartford Girls, Sid & Chis - can’t remember the Sutton one). However, only Bexley is mere pass, the rest are more superselective so people who are keen tend to all tutor/over prepare.

SausageAndCash · 13/06/2022 22:10

Yodaisawally · 13/06/2022 09:57

They're not grammar though, they are super selective

How are super selectives not grammars?

They are grammars that admit on the highest scores rather than ‘pass’ and distance or catchment.

steppemum · 13/06/2022 22:21

NeverTooLateToSing · 13/06/2022 10:03

Sounds like Gloucestershire. They are all state schools, all 'super-selective' and all have mixed sixth forms afaik.

In Gloucester:
Sir Thomas Rich's (boys)
Denmark Road High School (girls)
Ribston High (girls)
Crypt (mixed)

In Cheltenham - Pates (mixed)

In Stroud - Stroud High (girls) and Marling (boys)

yes, and to add, these school shave no catchment area, they go only on highest marks. (well, there are a few exceptions but that's the basic rule)
So there are kids who travel from a long way to go to them, eg Swindon.

Quartz2208 · 13/06/2022 22:23

BendingSpoons · 13/06/2022 12:57

There is a tiny area in Sutton where you are in the priority areas for:

Boys:
Sutton Grammar
Wallington
Wilsons
Tiffin

Girls:
Nonsuch
Wallington
Tiffin

If you live in the correct postcodes, then places are allocated mainly on score, rather than distance. Where we live, we are in the area for 5 of the schools above.

We are in the in catchment/priority postcodes for most of those where we are in Stoneleigh (although not in the ring fenced area) although we could have been in the second layer for Tiffins (decided against it).

Certainly though where we are in Stoneleigh - the two primaries Nonsuch side send children to all of them (DD is at one of them). But 4 are boys and 3 are girls

Tollystar · 13/06/2022 22:24

Staplehurst, Kent (if a boy) = MGS, Oakwood, Judd, TWBGS, Skinners and Cranbrook.

Indigoo03 · 14/06/2022 03:30

Many thanks for everyone's input! Does that then also mean the 'same' property is much more pricey in these areas compare to somewhere without access to grammars ?

Being new to this subject, i understood that properties next to outstanding state primary and secondary would often be punchy in price. I guess it would be exactly the same for being close/accessible to grammars be them selective or not.

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AlternativePerspective · 14/06/2022 03:40

Wilmington, tonbridge, dartford, Chislehurst and sidcup, st Olaves,newsted woods, am positive there are more but those would all be accessible from Bromley postcode areas.

HobnobsChoice · 14/06/2022 03:51

All grammars are selective. Just some are even more so than others. It makes significant difference to house prices in Trafford.

SwayingInTime · 14/06/2022 05:18

A catholic girl could live in quite a lot of Trafford postcodes and have access to 6 grammar schools definitely.

Matildatoldsuchdreadfullies · 14/06/2022 05:23

I live in East Kent. Children in my town (which doesn’t have a grammar) go to 6 different grammar schools, if they pass the Kent Test.

StrictlyAFemaleFemale · 14/06/2022 05:53

Gloucestershire.

Didnt realise they were so super selective? Were they like that in the 90s?

2reefsin30knots · 14/06/2022 05:58

If you lived in north Slough you could be in travelling distance of at least 6 grammars (Burnham, Herschel, Langley, Upton, St Bernard's, Beconsfield etc) but you couldn't just choose between them.

Tollystar · 14/06/2022 09:17

Does that then also mean the 'same' property is much more pricey in these areas compare to somewhere without access to grammars?

Not noticeably in Kent, since the whole county is a grammar school area, so all kids are within catchment of a fair number of grammar schools. Estate agents still advertise houses as being within the "Cranbrook School Catchment area" etc, but you'd struggle to notice a difference in price between the equivalent house just outside catchment.

steppemum · 14/06/2022 09:25

Gloucestershire,
The house prices don't really reflect the grammars, as you can live anywhere, the criteria is the highest number on the test. The house prices actually reflect the comprehensives. Eg there is an amazing comp in Cheltenham and the catchment is tiny and expensive.

My kids go to Glos grammar. We live in Swindon. One of the cheapest towns in South.
The down side is that my kids travel to school. If I could do it again, I would live closer.
The biggest issue is accessible transport to school, and if you are reliant on a school bus, bear in mind that that means after school activities and friendships become hard, and one parent becomes a permanent taxi.

I know parts of Kent are the same. My neices go to a grammar which had no distance criteria. But their second choice distance was the issue, and they were borderline in terms of being close enough.

These grammars which take just the highest marks become super selective because they end up with such wide catchments. Also, unless there are enough grammars for the whole county, then they become super selective as there are not enough places.

I have 3 kids. Aged 19, 17, 14. They went to 2 very good schools.
If I had my time over again, I am not sure I would choose for them to travel, despite the good schools.

Jojobees · 14/06/2022 09:31

I live in Bucks and can access:
AHS
SHFG
AGS
RGS
WHS
CGS
JHGS

that’s 7 in my local area. ( all within 30mins)

Jojobees · 14/06/2022 09:33

Oh and our property price is pretty average for the area.
It was his 11+ score that got us the choice, not post code.

thing47 · 14/06/2022 09:57

Jojobees · 14/06/2022 09:33

Oh and our property price is pretty average for the area.
It was his 11+ score that got us the choice, not post code.

This could be read as implying that a higher score in the 11+ gives you access to more schools. That is not true.

If you get the pass mark (121), you are eligible for any grammar school in Bucks as long as you live in its catchment area. Getting a maximum score makes no difference whatsoever.

Jojobees · 14/06/2022 10:56

I really didn’t mean it to come across that way, I was more responding to the Op who asked if post code meant choice, when grammar places are determined by 11+ passing.
Although in my sons year they took appeals of 116 and above due to COVID...

thing47 · 14/06/2022 11:24

Fair enough @Jojobees I was just concerned it could be misinterpreted by parents who don't know the system in Bucks because for super-selectives the score does make a difference.

Crazy how many different school systems operate in our small country!

doorbore · 14/06/2022 11:50

@BendingSpoons
There is a tiny area in Sutton where you are in the priority areas for:

what area is it please?

doorbore · 14/06/2022 11:51

@Quartz2208 how do I find the postcodes that are included?

Essexgirlupnorth · 14/06/2022 11:58

Trafford grammars definitely affect house prices though my friend moved to Trafford for the grammar schools but didn't end up sending her son as he got diagnosed with ADHD and wouldn't have got it. Youngest one might.
Now the Essex exam is Essex wide less pupils seem to get into the Southend/Westcliff grammars from the local area so don't think it makes much difference to house prices it is being commuter distance of London that pushes them up.

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