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How do you teach a child to read?

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littlemissbossy · 22/11/2004 16:48

ok, this may be an obvious question, but how do you teach a child to read? my ds, aged 4, started reception in September and only knows a few letters of the alphabet but is expected to read (and I mean read the words himself!) at least two books a week (Oxford Reading Tree). When I spoke to the teacher about this at parents evening, she explained that they have no time to do individual reading in class so it must be done at home(which I understand) but I'm not a teacher ... and I'm not thick but I really don't know where to start and he's really struggling. So are there any mumsnet teachers who can give me some lessons on how to teach my son to read ... please??
TIA

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KristinaM · 22/11/2004 22:26

I also have a 4yo who just started school ( local state primary). She is in the 2nd of 4 reading groups in her class and they DO get homework, which takes her about 10 mins each night. Its either a maths worksheet or reading/writing. She get a new reading book each week and the writing homework is the new words from that book. Words are ones like " come, here, there, the, can't, help" and the names of the characters.

They are NOT eyebrow and everyone . Not surprised your Ds is struggling . BTW although this is the local school it has the best results in the whole county.

Catflap · 22/11/2004 23:15

Hi there everyone - I'm a teacher and a new mum and have just been pointed to this site so have joined!

I thought I would contribute to this thread as the teaching of reading has been a particular passion of mine since Ihave found out so much about it.

The key question asked in the original post - how do we teach children to read?.......well, shockingly, most teachers don't know the answers to that one and perhaps more shockingly is that we aren't trained how to at the training colleges.

I began to read around ont he subject when I became frustrated at mot being able to fully help my Year 1 children who were struggling and I realised I had no real idea how children learn to read and how best to teach it. I read a book called 'Why Children Can't Read - and what we can do about it' by Diane McGuinness. It was the most enlightening thing I have ever read and transformed my teaching and my children's learning.

However, most schools and training colleges have not heard of this book and it is not on reading lists. The National Literacy Strategy continues to ignore major research into the teaching and learning of reading and schools continue to fail 25% of children.

The thoughts and opinions voiced on this thread alone convey a deeper understanding of young children reading than most teachers seem to have! You have all spoken with such common sense - something many teachers seem to have lost.

The thing is, the methods used to teach reading obvilusly do work to some degree - we all learned to read and most children do succeed: it's just that they could succeed much quicker and more effectively and securely, and those 25% could succeed also and there wouldn't be so many illierate adults in the future.

Current practice is to mix methods together in the hope that one will stick and a child will find what helps them. Exposure to books, using memory to match spoken and written words, some phonics, word/flash cards etc all serve to help children make sense of our written word eventuallyu - some quicker than others....and some not at all.

I became disillusioned when my struggling children weren't making sense of any of the methods and what knowlegde they did have seemed incorrect or incomplete.

They would always attempt to sound out unknown words, despite being encouraged to 'read the whole sentence and then guess' or use the pictures to help. It seemed that most children learned to read during individual reading time which was very time consuming for me and then they only managed to read because of huge clues from me all the time - they never managed it independently. Plus, the phonic knowledge they did have didn't seem right - a child once came to the word 'little' which they didn't know so carefully sounded 'luh-i-tuh-tuh-luh-e' (if you can understand that typing of how children sound out!)and I wondered how on earth they could be expected to get a word from that random collection of meaningless sounds.

However, with the help of the aforementioned book, I learned all the answers!! And I bet you are rather desperate for moe to share them with you know, after all this rambling!

Well, it can get quite complicated and there are big debates into it in teaching circles, which you can see at the TES Staffroom forums that I believe someone mentioned here, which can be visited here and also at the Reading Reform Foundation website.

But here is what I can share in brief:

Our writing is a code - our speech is broken down into individual sounds and represented in letters. When we read we lok at the individual or groups of letters, recognise the sounds and blend them together to form the fluent word. Those of us who have been doing this capably for years have generally forgotten or are unaware of this process. ALso, words are so familiar to us, we see them as wholes so foget about the importance of the phonics element. You can be reminded of your ability to read by trying to read unfamiliar words - names of people or towns that are unfamiliar, or texts such as this:
The fructificative goosefoot was foveolariously assembled. The frugivorous and frowsy fricatrice, whose epidermis was of a variegated fuchsinophillic consistency, masticated her chenopodiaceous repast morosely.

[The fruit-bearing goosefoot was full of pit-like indentations. The fruit-loving and frowsy chewer, whose skin was of a mottled and purplish-red consistency, chewed her goosefoot (species) morosely.]

If you have good sound/letter knowledge and blending skills, you would have read this quite effortlessly - if you learned to read via picture clues/whole word recognition/learning to find words within words/breaking down into syllables etc, you might have had a little more difficulty.

So, the key is, teach children the sounds and letters and how to blend them.

But this is wider than the alphabet - and our language is complicated, but not as irregular as people think so this method can work if taught systematically, thoroughly and quickly.

Traditional phonics teaches one sound for each letter of the alphabet and usually at a pace of 1 sound per week. This is too painfully slow to be productive.

There are about 44 sounds in our spoken language.

There are 25 consonant sounds: (sounds where there is some form of obstruction in the mouth with pronunciation e.g. lips, tongue etc touching)
b, ck, d, f, g, h, j, l, m, n, p, qu, r, s, t, v, w, x, z, ch, th (said quietly as in 'thin') and th (said noisily as in 'this'), ng, sh, zh

There are 19 vowel sounds: (sounds where there are no obstructiuons - 'mouth open' sounds; they are also all vocalised sounds, no 'whispered' ones such as 's' or ch)
a, e, i, o, u, oo (as in 'cook' in most accents) y (in its initial position e.g. at the beginning of 'yes' where we in fact say a really brief 'ee' sound, not the traditional 'yuh' which in fact doesn't exist in spoken words) oo (as in 'spoon') ai, ee, igh, oa, ew, ou, oi, or, ar, er and 'uh' - the indistinct vowel sound as in garden and 'sofa.

There are 26 letters of the alphabet. Clearly this is not enough for each sound to have one letter. So we mix and match - some sounds have one letter, some two, some three and some even four.

And nearly every sound has more than one way to spell it.

It all sounds hideously confusing, doesn't it?! - Probably because it's all new to you here and it's hard to explain in type only.

But I have had all my 4 and 5 year old dealing with this no problems - chatting about vowels and consonants; knowing one spelling for each sound in their first term in Reception - blending words with them and then learning spelling alternatives after Christmas.

By learning this way, children learn to unlock the alphabet code for themselves and read virtually any unknown word.

The thing is, teachers aren't taught this informtaion for themselves. I discovered it on my own because I happened upon the right book.

Schemes such as Jolly PHonics teach this seemingly complicated informtaion to children in a fun, multi-sensory way that has been proved time and time again to be nearly 100%b successful.

In the first week, children learn s, a, t, i, p and n. They can then read words like it, in , is, at, tin, pin, tip, snip, snap etc. The next week, they learn ck, e, h, r, m, d etc and the list of words that can be read gets increasingly and rapidly extensive! By Christmas, words like 'mushroom' and 'woodpecker' are easy!

However, you shouldn't be having to teach your children to read at home. Teachers should have this information and should be doing a successful job at school. You shouild just be reinforcing work and seeing the amazing results!

However, because the Government are so misguided, if your childern are getting the usual hotch-potch of teaching as it seems they are, it might be up to you. Visit the above sites and the Jolly Phonics handbook is available in Early Learning Centres and Formative Fun stores.

All schools will claim they do phonics at school - the National Literacy Strategy has a scheme and many use JP. However, if they chidlren are still expected to predict/guess words or learn them from word cards or read from memory or read words containing letters and sounds they have not been taught, then the teaching is not happening at its most effective.

My little baby girl is 5 months old now. She loves loking at books. People know of my reading passion and hove joked that I might be teaching her already.... I am not. I still value children's innocence and natural curiosity of the world. I hope to enjoy stories with her and develop her language skills so she can speak and listen carefully and be aware of her own language. I would rather leave all her teaching up to school. But if it doesn't happen properlywhen she is ready to read, I will ensure it does!

If you have made it to the end, thank you for your patience! I hope this has been enlightening and given you some useful information. There is so much more I could say!

Good luck with all your childern's reading - I wish them a happy and successful journey.

Catflap. x

cab · 22/11/2004 23:23

Catflap - are you charleymouse on Tes website?

cab · 22/11/2004 23:28

p.s. catflap - just a wee point - if a child has a problem pronouncing the consonant blends do you think they're too young for jp? Or how would you deal with that one.

littlemissbossy · 23/11/2004 10:09

Thanks catflap, I'm having a look at those sites now

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KristinaM · 23/11/2004 10:10

Thnak Catflap. And welcome to mumsnet [smmile]

KristinaM · 23/11/2004 10:11

Hmmm. Must remember to preview

jabberwocky · 23/11/2004 10:29

That's great information catflap. What we have done as far as learning the alphabet with ds is to put lots and lots of those magnetic alphabet on the fridge. He also loves to read the Dr. Seuss ABC book. He just started picking up the letters and showing them to us after a while and telling us what they were! He will actually hold the letters in his hands and run around the house playing with them as if they are toys. He tends to get focused on one at a time and will pick out all of the letters he can find of that one (O is a particular favorite). Some we have found that he does better using the sound rather that saying the letter name such as guh-guh for G. I also have some of the foam letters for the bath. We don't push him to do this, just have them available. Since I now know the Dr Seuss book by heart, when he brings a new letter to me I can say the rhyme that goes with it i.e. Goat, Girl, Goo-Goo Goggles, G,G,G.

jabberwocky · 23/11/2004 10:31

Oh and meant to add, reading the same story over and over (just as bright and cheery last time as first ) helps them a lot too. It must because kids realllly like to do this, don't they.

Wallace · 23/11/2004 13:16

Catflap - welcome to mumsnet. is the method you mention similar to THRASS? I think they are beginning to use this method in ds' Primary School.

Catflap · 23/11/2004 13:26

Hi ladies - I am pleased for the positive responses! - I promise this post won't be as long as the last one...!

Just to answer and comment on a couple of your thoughts and questions:

cab - just need to clarify with you what you mean by consonant blends. Strictly, these are blends of two consonant sounds, joined together for fluency duing blending and sounding out e.g. pl, tr, cl, fr, st etc

Once the children can pronounce these in isolation in response to a letter, they can usually join them together quite fluently by themselves, perhaps with a lottle modelling by an adult but they quickly get the hang of it.

However, if this is not what you meant, then I would saym, generally, that to begin JP, a child would have to have an awareness and interest in books and be quite well developed in regards to language and communication. The focus on the sounds often helps pronunciation if there are speech difficulties - I often use mirrors with the children so they can actually see what their mouths are supposed to do. it's hard for them to copy you if they have poor body awareness!

I hope this helps - please do clarify if I haven't understood what you mean.

Jaberwocky - it's great your ds finds playing with letetrs such fun! He's obviously enjoying his reading and letter work! He will get on better with the sounds as it's much more meaningful to early learning. KNowing the letetr names e.g. ay, bee, see, dee, ee, eff etc helps with pretty much nothing until late into year 1 for those who are able and then it only really helps to talk about the letters e.g. the letter 'ay' can be used to help spell the sounds 'a', 'oa' 'ay' etc

It has been proved - adn I've seen this in my classrooms - that learning the sounds AND names can be very confusing for children and it's the soudns that helps us read so that is what should be taught first.

One point - learning the sounds in their initial position all the time can also be very limiting but that is how phonics has been traditionally taught. e.g. g for goat, f for fish etc. Words have sounds and letters all the way thorugh and children should experience g at the end of frog, and in the middle of wiggle etc. ALl the letetrs in a word should be within the range of those taught to the child so that they can sound out all the way through, not just recognise beginning letters.

One more point about an earlier post - Oxfor Reading Tree is a 'whole word' scheme, although they do have some new phonics books published recently in demand to the increasing awareness of the role phonics has to play. (I say that tongue planted firmly in cheek as phonics has the only role to play, but people are slow to realise that...) Ginn 360 is alsso sight words recognition. ORT's philosophy is that all the while the language is predictable and follows the pictures, children can guess what they don't know and will elarn that way. - Can you imagine how many times you have to guess words to get them right? ANd then, if discovered by chance, how are you goimng to remember your guessewd answer for next time? - Madness. Ginn introduces words at an appallingly slow rate, so the difficult words can have plenty of time to sink in before the children are subjected to more difficult words. I have seen children fail miserably on this scheme.

ORT has lovely plotlines and gorgeous illustrations and are loved by kids - but for those struggling readers, it is all too much guess work to be of any real success or fulfillment.

Hope this helps for now - I am happyto answer any questions or elaborate on any points if anyone else is interested any further. Then I hope I can visit some more threads and abuse your expertise on babies too young to read as that is what I am personally dealing with these days!! - it's not like having a classful, having your own one baby, is it?? - Far more tiring!!!

catflap x

wordgirl · 23/11/2004 13:33

Hi Catflap . I just wanted to say that when I first read this thread I thought "I wish Charliemouse was here to explain the importance of phonics" ! I was going to have a go myself but I'm so pleased you came along and explained it far more eloquently then I could ever have done.

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puddle · 23/11/2004 13:55

Catflap - thank you for posting on this thread - this is SO interesting. My ds has just started on jolly phonics - now I know why he is rattling through the letters at such a rate - one a day which is then re-inforced with 'homework' at home, effectively talking about the sound and thinking of and drawing pictures of things that start with the same sound. It does seem to be working with him too - I can't believe how much he has absorbed already - he's a march birthday so is only at school am but is already starting to sound out unfamiliar words - he chose his own yoghurt this lunchtime by reading the pots.

suzywong · 23/11/2004 14:01

just to add my two penneth
Me and ds1 , 3.5 are having lots of fun with a the mangetic side of an easel and a jar of magnetic numbers and letters

We spelled out all of TTTE's mates in a phoenetic way - tom-us - and put their numbers by the side of them

That's all I'll be doing with him for the next year or until he brings me a book and asks me to show him how to read it.

Mo2 · 23/11/2004 22:10

Hi all - a very interesting thread, and very timely as I was just about to post a similar question. Wonder if someone can help?

DS (5 in Dec) is VERY keen on books and learning to read - always has been, so I guess we are very lucky in that respect.We've always spent a lot of time reading to him, but haven't tried to 'teach' him to read as such, although we did have the Jolly Phonics books from when he was 4, and he's enjoyed those.

Since starting in reception in Sept, he seems to be storming through his school reading books (ORT 2 & 2+) and really finding them easy. He can read all the Reception target words no problem.

The other day, he picked out an ORT Stage 5 book in a bookshop and read it to me, cover to cover with only about 2 or 3 words causing him any problems.

I know feel rather unsure about how to best support him. I know that his schoolbooks don't challenge him, but I don't want to get in the way of the 'reading system' - e.g. I know the school don't like parents using their own ORT books at home for example.

He only gets 2 books a week from school and reads those in about 5 minutes. Yet we read for about 30 mins or more each evening, and he wants to try reading other books.

what in anyone's opinion are the other 'staged' reading schemes which would be complimentary to ORT?

Mo2 · 23/11/2004 22:15

Sorry - have just re-read my last post and realise that it could sound a bit arrogant - as if I'm saying "look how wonderful my DS is.. brag.. brag.." Honestly , it wasn't meant to be. It's genuinely a worry that DS might be put off reading by the school approach :-( and if he wants to go 'faster' than they seem to be letting him.

aloha · 23/11/2004 22:19

What an interesting post, Catflap. I've just ordered the book you recommended from Amazon! Mo2, from my own personal experience (long, long ago!) of being an early reader who was bored rigid by school 'reading books' I would strongly recommend you get your son some real books with real stories to read, but within his capabilities. Let him choose them at the bookshop or library. I'd leave the reading scheme to the school and give him fun books.

Mo2 · 23/11/2004 22:25

Aloha - thanks - that's what I'm inclined to do to be honest, but there's so much talk about the 'theory' of reading these days you get the impression that you'll confuse kids by teaching them the 'wrong stuff' too soon, or the 'wrong way' IYKWIM!
Personally it 'feels' like a load of bllcks and that all reading must be 'good' and contribute to their total understanding, but there's justa bit of me that

aloha · 23/11/2004 22:36

Just off to bed, but want to say that I started to read when I was two, and by five was a very fluent reader (not boasting, honest! I don't even remember!) and I loved, loved, loved reading and still do. At school I read boring 'reading books' and at home I read fairy tales, Enid Blyton, encylopaedias, the back of sauce bottles....anything! It only made me a better, faster, more engaged reader. The thing is, it sounds to me as if your clever little son CAN read, so all you are doing is giving him a chance to enjoy practising his new skill. IMO once a person can read, how can there be a right or wrong way to enjoy a story?

Mo2 · 23/11/2004 22:44

Whoops - don't know what happened to the rest of my post (AND those wretched *s ruined my perfectly good rude word)

Anyway - Aloha - I agree with you. Will be off to the library this weekend!
Thanks.

enid · 23/11/2004 22:47

dd1 (started state primary reception in Sept) gets a book EVERY NIGHT as homework and two at the weekends (oxford reading tree and others). I encourage her to point to each word and look at the word, not me!, when she is trying to work it out. She isn't as advanced as some in her class but she really enjoys it.

Ghosty · 24/11/2004 03:34

I am just poking my head in here .... and wanted to say to Catflap ... Welcome to Mumsnet and what a star you are!!

My DS is 5 next week and will be starting school on his birthday (bizarre NZ custom).

I am a teacher originally and I vowed never ever to teach my child to read before he started school. But DS has got in the way of that promise in that he has been interested in letters since he was 3 and I have let him lead me in what he wants to do and learn. He desperately wants to read and to be honest I think the knowledge he now has of sounds means that he will be able to pick up reading quite quickly when he starts school.

I asked the deputy head of his new school what they want children to be able to do when they start school and her answer was fantastic and made me so pleased to be living here:

  1. We like them to be able to play.
  2. We like them to be able to dress themselves, take themselves to the toilet, use a pair of scissors to cut things out, enjoy colouring in.
  3. Life skills like that are far more important at 5 than knowing letters and being able to read and write.

She made the point that often children who are taught before they start school are taught the wrong way to hold a pencil and at times it is almost impossible to put right.

Just one other point:
I learned to read when I was 6. Up until that time I had been at pre school in Holland where the order of the day was PLAY. I moved to England and everyone had been reading for 2 years. I don't think I even knew the alphabet. I learned to read in a few short months. And I managed to go to a good University at 18 and have a degree.

It is a proven fact that children who are taught to read at 4 are no further ahead at 11 than children who are taught to read at 6 or 7.

G xx

ernest · 24/11/2004 08:40

Hi all, also interested in this topic. I got this book from amazon following a recommendation on another thread a couple of weeks ago. It seems to be pretty much exactly the same method as the book recommended by Catflap, but with the added advantage that it is broken down into - I think - 100 lessons, all of them scripted so you don't even have to worry or think about how best to present the information. I've been doing it with my ds who seems to be sailing through it & enjoying it. It only takes about 10 - 15 minutes a day.

jude2105 · 24/11/2004 12:28

A question then, my DS is doing ORT scheme at school. Is it dangerous (ie would it cause too much confusion) if i were to work through the phonics route with him at home?