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ICT Secondary teachers wanted...

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Freddiecat · 04/11/2004 21:18

Help! I am seriously considering doing the secondary PGCE next year to become an ICT teacher. I have a Geography degree (10 years ago) but don't want to teach geography as I understand schools don't teach it as full time as they used to - and it's not really an "in demand" subject.

I have spent the last 8 years working in IT as a programmer and also writing and delivering IT technical training courses for a year. But most of my techinical knowledge is in mainframe stuff (although I do know MS Office and other PC software like the back of my hand). I really don't know a lot about web authoring and stuff like that but I'm sure I could pick it up with a little guidance in the right direction.

Anyone doing this and can give me some help please?

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popsycal · 04/11/2004 21:18

It is hulababy freddie

popsycal · 04/11/2004 21:19

oh and this is brill for teaching yourself web authoring

dont know why i didnt say it last night

codswallop · 04/11/2004 21:21

ahem you will know Loads more than them!
what they say about kids knowking lots about computers is crap ime - they know how to load games!

Hulababy · 05/11/2004 09:11

What do you want to know Freddiecat?

I teach secondary ICT. Currently teaching it at KS3, GCSE and also the ECDL. Have done some limited A Level stuff in the past, and until this year GNVQ (Intermediate and Foundation; not done advanced).

Firstly there is a huge shortage of ICT teachers so you would be a great asset. Schools really struggle to get hold of, and to keep, their ICT staff and many schools are understaffed in the departments - having to use non specialists (which is not inline with the Government guidelines).

ICt is now a core subject at both KS3 and KS4, so all pupils have to study the subject in some form throughout the secondary education. In about 2 or 3 years online testing for KS3 ICT comes online. It is currently being trialed. According to my LEA Advisor for ICt this is likely to become compulsary testing at KS3 in a few years.

KS3 National Strategy

This site gives you all the info about KS3 ICT and what we are expected to teach and pupils to learn. The 3 years now have Units written especially for them. There are six in Year 7, five in Y8 and three in Y9. The idea is to progress and build up to independent use of ICT. This is still quite new. Many schools are not yet using the Y9 work; some are starting this year. Whilst this is not actually a compulsary syllabus all the training for ICt is based on it, and OFSTED kind of expect you to be using it! We differentiate it a lot.

KS3 ICT focuses on using software - spreadsheets, databases, PowerPoint, word processing, publishing, using the Internet, control, etc.

GCSE

There are lots of ICT syllabuses. Many of the newer ones are the Applied ICT courses, some of which are worth 2 GCSE qualifications. Not many places do Computer Studes anymore; just ICT. Looks again at using the computers. Mainly software based, but at a highler (sometimes!) level that KS3, and more independent use. Most courses are heavily based on coursework (around 60%) with smaller exams. Some syllabuses use
online testing for the exams; others paper based.

We are doing the EDXCEL Applied ICT course. But there are loads!

ECDL

This is the European Computer Driving License. It is an online competency ICT course. I've only just started teaching this to Y10 and to Y12. It's only around Level 1 for the main. But it can go up to Level 2 (GCSE standard) by pupils doing an extra unit at the end.

GNVQ (Foundation & Intermediate)

Very similar to the Applied GCSEs. Very much based on independent work and coursework projects. Although there are a couple of externally assessed units, which have short exams.

I don't know much about the highler level stuff. At A Level you can have courses in both ICT and in Cpmputing/Computer Studies. ICt is more about using pre-existing software on computers, and using them to achieve given applications, etc. Computing is more indepth of using computers with programming, etc. involved.

Hulababy · 05/11/2004 09:13

Gosh, wrote loads!

If you want to e-mail me on claireandrich(at)beeb(dot)net I can tell you loads more.

BTW most schools now use PCs and the Office suite on the whole, IME anyway. And there is very little web authoring stuff - it is an optional unit at GCSE and GNVQ level, so depends on individual schools/teachers as to whether it is done. But even then it is generally done using software such as MS FrontPage, rather than programming using HTML, etc.

HTH

popsycal · 05/11/2004 09:14

Hula!
Freddie is a friend of mine....if she doesnt mind, I could give you her email address....

awaiting your response freddie....

Hulababy · 05/11/2004 09:29

Whichever way is fine by me Popsy

Could do with kowing what type of things Freddiecat would like to know about at this stage too

Pity she doesn't live close to me - she could have come in for a day to see what it's like (and yes, I would have avoid that Y9 class!)

popsycal · 05/11/2004 09:31

i will text her and if she replies to me before she sees this, I will post up her questions.

When I chatted to her the other night, she seemed to wanted to know what knowledge she would need to acquire......

Hulababy · 05/11/2004 09:38

I would suspect she knows way in excess of what is actually required, if she's been working in ICT anyway!

popsycal · 05/11/2004 09:41

I agree!!

listmaker · 05/11/2004 12:55

I too thought I would like to change careers to train as an ICT tescher in secondary schools.

My degree is in French and German but I have worked in IT for 16 years but was worried about my relevant skills. When I looked at the syllabuses I reckoned I knew enough to get by easily and I'm sure you would too. They work at quite a low level on the whole.

I got a place to do a PGCE and also to do the Graduate Teaching Programme where you learn on the job and earn a salary.

But in the end I decided against it because it was going to be such long hours and would need so much of my time for about half my current salary! I am a single parent with 2 young (6 and 4) dds and just didn't want to put us through it all. It's not an easy profession. Talk to as many teachers as you can - especially ones just starting out as the first few years are the worst.

Good luck anyway.

Hulababy · 07/11/2004 08:26

Bumping this for Freddiecat

popsycal · 07/11/2004 19:09

will give her a shout - she doesnt get on here much these days with a toddler and a 4 month old!

Hulababy · 07/11/2004 19:13

I can imagine. You'll be the same soon too!

Give her my e-mail and/or telephone number if she does want to know more. More than happy to write/chat to her about it.

popsycal · 07/11/2004 19:17

will do!

(and do remind me of my circumstances!!! lol)

Hulababy · 07/11/2004 19:18

I shouldn't laugh. Let's face it, I hope to me in similar situation soon - although DD wll be a bit older.

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