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Would this affect you? Church schools will lose freedom to select pupils

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pooodle · 04/11/2007 08:34

www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/dailymail/home.html?in_page_id=1766

Would this affect you? It would me!

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pooodle · 04/11/2007 08:36

www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=491579&in_page_id=1770&in_a_sou rce=

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christywhisty · 04/11/2007 09:38

My DC'S go/went to a C of E primary school and DS goes to a Foundation school where he was selected on apptitude for technology, so we would be affected by both rules

Not all church schools are succesful. My sister was a TA in a primary c of E school which was awful. In her class alone they had 9 children on report.
But the schools that are successful are because they attract like minded parents who care about their children's education, but this applies to non religeous schools as well.

The church schools wouldn't be there if the churches hadn't set them up in the first place, paid for the buildings to be built etc.
Instead of destroying what is successful why doesn't the government find out what is successful about these schools and apply that to ones that are not succeeding.

With regard to the foundation schools that selects 10% on apptitude. DS goes to a school about 5 miles away that is science and technology status. This school suits him really well as these are his strengths.We also have a local school that selects on aptitude for language.

Neither of the tests can be studied for or tutored for as they are not based on natural aptitude not ability.

DS's test was based on a comparison of verbal and non verbal reasoning
For the language aptitude test they are given grammer rules for a fairly obscure language then told to work out verb ending etc.

I can't see the reason for children that have talents in a particular area not go to a school which can encourage and develop those talents

Freckle · 04/11/2007 09:42

Will this be rolled out to include grammars? There would be huge uproar if it did and, if grammars are allowed to select on one criterium, i.e. ability, why shouldn't other schools select on the basis of religious devotion?

Will this also include other faiths? I notice that the article only mentions CofE and RC schools. What about Muslim, Jewish, etc.?

lemonaidtreasonandplot · 04/11/2007 09:51

My thoughts...

  1. Daily Mail
  2. Not actually "will lose the freedom", more "one recently recruited senior policy aide is known to have previously argued, in another job, that they should lose the freedom"
  3. Also, if you actually read what he wrote, it said "Religious faith would no longer take strict precedence over all other factors in allocating places to these schools" (my italics) (i.e. it sounds as though so long as a faith school is admitting a broad range of abilities and not using religion as an excuse to select on ability/social class nothing much would change)
  4. Can't see it happening, myself

That's without getting onto the whole faith schools malarky, which I am not doing again right now.

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