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Chandlings/Abingdon Prep/Cranford/Moulsford/Manor HELP!!!

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summertime83 · 21/10/2020 20:30

Hi.

We are looking for a pre-prep for our son for next September. However only being able to do virtual open days and private visits when the pupils are not on site has left us totally confused. Has anyone got any experience with the above schools (good/bad/ugly?!).

Thank you

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1805 · 22/10/2020 00:01

We're a few years out of prep schools now, but for what's it's worth, we found that Manor was geared towards the elite girls and the middle and lower performing cohorts didn't get many opportunities in sport, drama, speaking comps etc. I have heard that the integration of boys into the prep hasn't gone very well.
Ab Prep always seemed friendly, maybe because of the first names tradition.

As I said though, we're a few years out now, so maybe some current parents will come on soon...
It depends on what type of school you'd be happy with.

Where do you live? Don't underestimate the travel time on the A34.

Keepyourkidsafe · 22/10/2020 18:04

1805 has got it right regarding The Manor in the past although, she may not have experienced life under the relatively new Head Mr Thomas who meets and greets parents & children at the gate most mornings.
He knows the name of each child and has always been available to talk at short notice if needed.

One of the 1st changes he implemented was the introduction of a free homework club (which he often hosts himself) which offsets the high cost of after school care that was previously the case at The Manor.

Opportunities for Sport have improved although, the local White Horse leisure centre also hosts approx 7/8 indoor tennis courts for after school tennis club & county tennis. The swimming and other sports there are also amazing too.
Cricket has been introduced at a mainly all girls school which is morphing in to a co-ed but surprisingly, my DD and friends have taken to it. But hockey & netball are still on offer and my DD is part of the school teams.

Drama provision is good and they compete & regularly win at the Winston Churchill speaking competition at Blenheim Palace!

We found the focus on learning to be good but relaxed so the kids achieve without parents unduly pressuring their kids via knowledge of how their kids are streamed or how they performed on assessments although, this information is available if requested. Kids can learn at their own pace whatever that is for your child.

In terms of catering for the stragglers, my DD had an issue with low self esteem which they had a unique method to address it and all seems fine now. They are also big on mindfulness which helped.
DD's friend is mildly autistic and her journey has been interesting where first the kids couldn't understand the extra time/leeway she was given but then were given a nice story to set the scene. DD's friend seems to be loving school and is not behind the others as they have given her the space to operate without disrupting the class.
This all demonstrates that the whole cohort is thoughtfully catered for.
My DD is at the other end of the spectrum and needs to be constantly challenged but is getting the extra work when she finishes ahead of others.

The best example I can give to the positive changes the head Mr Thomas has made is the proactive planning for home schooling during COVID/lockdown.
DS' school was terrible, very little Zoom lessons, no supporting material and very much down to the parents to ensure kids kept up the learning....what were we paying for???
The Manor however saw the lockdown coming and were already planning their online schooling provision ahead of the lockdown. Kids were given Google Chromebooks/laptops if needed and Zoom lessons were taking place regularly everyday. On top of that they even sent stationery, books and workbooks if needed....amazing! and completely different to DS' school.
The Manor appear to be set for (dare I say it) the next lockdown if it comes to that.
This planning all stems from the leadership.

Parents I find are more down to earth and less flash than at other schools.

I am so happy we chose The Manor for our DD as it has allowed her to be a child without having peer pressure to grow up too soon. She is happy and misses school & friends during holidays.

The negatives......

  1. Getting in to school car park in mornings at 8:30-845am!!
  2. Seem to feed in to the same schools (although, the brighter ones can get to the Wycombe Abbey's, CLC, etc... but the path needs to be spelt out better).
  3. Music provision could be more focused - we have had to do this outside of school.
  4. Not many games/sport played against other schools - perhaps bcos there is no Saturday school? But this needs to change!
  5. Number of boys has increased but with Abingdon boys prep on doorstep there just isn't the demand for a co-ed (I feel that The Manor might return to all girls in future) - still, it gives the girls the chance now to play sports sometimes deemed to be boys sports - football, cricket...

Chandlings I hear is a good school
Moulsford is great for boys and all the sport it has to offer - sports on the Thames!
Sorry, no experience of the others listed.

Hope that helps - PM me if needed

Keepyourkidsafe · 22/10/2020 18:06

Apologies - just realised this is for your son Smile

As I was saying, Moulsford is great for boys

summertime83 · 23/10/2020 20:22

Thank you so much for your detailed response about the Manor. I have heard a lot of great things about it but I too have heard that the integration of boys at the school hasn't been particularly smooth, and that is a concern to me. Having said that we are not sure an all-boys school so early on is right for our son either.

Has anyone had experience with Chandlings? I have heard a rumour class sizes are due to increase?

Thank you :)

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Jetset78 · 24/10/2020 16:34

Chandlings is an excellent all round school which caters for both academically able and sporty kids in equal measure.

Good balance between boys and girls and apparently the food is very good! Lots of activities available too.

The children all seem balanced and very happy. Definitely not a hot house but challenging to the ability of the child. Also wins most of the time at sports against rival local schools.

Newme2016 · 24/10/2020 16:53

Chandlings is great for preprep, very good teachers and facilities.

Prep (year 4 and above) was very different. If your child is not sporty or not particularly special in any area forget it. Very bad experience with this.

As the poster says, kids are happy if they are in this category.

NicolaMarlowsMerlin · 25/10/2020 14:19

I’ve written before about Moulsford which is really an excellent school. Caters for a wide range of boys and gets the best out of all of them. Great academics, sport, music, art and huge range of extracurricular options (from art appreciation through parkour to chess and anime). We did not originally want single sex as our dd now goes 40 mins in the opposite direction, but moulsford truly has been the making of our son.

We looked at Chandlings and liked it but didn’t love it, particularly since we wanted the common entrance option and moving schools at 11 ( we joined in yr 4) seemed unhelpful.

Manor seems really great fir the right kind of girl, we don’t know any families with boys there atm.

Try the virtual open days? They are def better than nothing and in the end you have to see where your family “fits”

summertime83 · 27/10/2020 21:24

Thank you all for your insights! Yes we are going to do the virtual open days and go from there. We seem to be spoilt for choice for schools in this area!

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OxfordBlues · 04/11/2020 11:25

@summertime83 Just cross-posting a message from another thread asking the same question. This is my take on Chandlings.

I am a parent of a Year 5 boy at Chandlings and it is a fantastic school that looks after him tailored to his personality and encourages him to achieve his full potential in academics and sport. The grounds are incredible, the teachers kind and nurturing, and he has plenty of opportunities to shine. I would be happy to answer any specific questions you have with factual info. We have experienced the school from Nursery onwards. There certainly isn't any "overwhelming parental unhappiness". Every school will have things people like and don't like. Again, I'd be very happy to address your concerns.

Add message | Report | Message poster | Quote | See allMathsyMum Tue 03-Nov-20 22:13:57
Hi @OxfordBlues, we are looking at Chandlings and the Manor. We loved Chandlings when we looked round but some of the threads here have made me nervous about committing! Would love to know more of your experience, particularly around the questions of leadership and falling intakes.

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Hi @OxfordBlues, we are looking at Chandlings and the Manor. We loved Chandlings when we looked round but some of the threads here have made me nervous about committing! Would love to know more of your experience, particularly around the questions of leadership and falling intakes.

Add message | Report | Message poster | Quote | See allOxfordBlues Wed 04-Nov-20 10:00:12
Hi @MathsyMum. I'll post the response I sent privately to the people asking questions earlier -there seems to be more interest in this discussion than I anticipated. It is always tricky to navigate reviews and make an informed decision. My husband (I'll admit he's reasonably right in this case, grudgingly) says that the only people who write reviews are either those who are very happy or very unhappy. I'll do my best to be objective.
By way of a background, our son is an only child; we are both have science postgraduate educations and work in science; we live in Oxford and both work full-time also in and around Oxford. We visited our local primary, Dragon, Abingdon Junior School, and Chandlings.
How we chose Chandlings:
1.We wanted a school that is not stretched for resources - our local state primary seemed to be struggling to raise funds to supplement their offering. This seemed to impact what could and couldn't be offered. The independent schools all had very good and abundant resources. Chandlings won for its fantastic grounds, their own swimming pool, space, a variety of sports pitches, forest school space, and resources for languages and music, etc.
2.Convenience of picking up and dropping off – we live 3 miles from the school so it is a good manageable drive before and after work for either of us. Lots of dedicated parking availability (Dragon is a city school with very limited parking; Abingdon is slightly better but still doesn’t have straightforward parking space for drop offs – picking up might be easier)
3.Good wraparound care – Chandlings has early birds’ club from 8am and they can go into their classes from 8:15 am for an 8:30 start, and also afterschool care (with or without activities) until 5pm included in the fees. This can be extended both ends to 7:30am and 6pm for a fee of £8 a session per family. Very handy for when we need to be outside Oxford for early commitments. Dragon finished at about 3pm for the very young kids and didn’t have after school care.
4.Lunch and snacks provided – We don’t have the time (read are not organised enough!) to make lunches and snacks every morning. Chandlings has this beautifully sorted with snacks at breaktimes, a sit-down hot/cold lunch, snack before afterschool club, all again included in the fees. To be fair, the other schools did it too but I’m not sure everything was included in the fees.
5.Diversity of background and race – Chandlings had a great mix of kids and families that we could relate to – lots of different professional backgrounds, coming from different countries of origin, speaking various second languages. Dragon, at the time, was very uniform, though Abingdon was less so. Chandlings was right for us.
6.Nurturing – My child is quieter and gentler than most. He is very articulate but painfully shy. We needed a school that would bring him out and help him find his voice and celebrate his strengths. Chandlings is incredible at doing just that. The teachers, TAs, support staff are all kind, all remember his name, always make time for him, and really look after him, all the while nudging him out of his comfort zone which is perfect. We spoke to a few teachers and took a bit of a punt on this one based on our gut feel. It was hard to know if this criterion would be satisfied. Now that we’ve spent 6+ years in this school, I am pretty sure we’ve got what we wanted.
7.Sport – My child is not crazily sporty (he plays badminton which they don’t offer in his school) but we did want him to try lots of sports which again Chandlings does very well. They do very well to include him (all kids play for 95% of the fixtures – they have teams from A to D or more if necessary and they ability match them so everyone gets a shot and learns to play in a team. Being an only child, this is great for my son.
8.Academic rigour – This was important to us and to be fair we saw it at all schools we visited. Chandlings understands its place as a primary school very well and does a lot of work to prepare children for secondary school entrance without being a hothouse which again, worked for us. Dragon goes to 13+ which is more geared towards their upper school and schools like Eton – not a deal-breaker but not for us.
9.Co-educational – We were keen on this and this was not an option at Abingdon.

About teachers being made redundant, class sizes increasing, total numbers at school falling:
1.We have had two real changes of head in the time we have been there, and a couple of interim heads. These things happen for a variety of reasons. But I can assure you that none of the changes were horrible enough for us to take our son out of the school. The school has a very strong leadership team and regardless of changes in head-ship the ethos and feel of the school has been consistent.
2.Before Covid, numbers typically fell because people panicked about secondary school entrance exams and want to game the system by getting to the school of choice earlier for an all but guaranteed senior school place. We had our own panic before Year 3 and went and did assessments for entry to Magdalen and Abingdon. My son got offered places to both but we chose to stay because he was happy and thriving at Chandlings. These numbers get made up in the following year’s intake. Additionally, changes make some people uncomfortable – the change in head led to some people moving out fearing a quality change. Chandlings also is the school of choice for children of visiting executives from companies like BMW, Nielsen, etc. They are a transient population – they naturally have to leave at the end of their stint in Oxford. Post Covid, numbers have gone down because people have had to deal with financial instability. The school has responded to the drop in numbers by consolidating classes (increasing from 16 to 20) and reducing staffing costs (some voluntary redundancies). Cost managing was something that the parent body asked for in the wake of having to continue paying fees for the reduced face-to-face teaching offering and not being able to use the facilities.
3.You have to remember that the school is fundamentally a business – one that educates your child really well, but a business. They are doing and have done what they need to do to keep afloat during the crisis. They have handled the changes reasonably well and remain open to suggestion and feedback. This has been important in confirming we made a good choice.

This may have been more detailed than you asked for but I do get frustrated when I seen a lot of extreme opinions on forums, usually from people with no first-hand experience. Every parent will say the school they picked for their child is fantastic – it is an emotive subject. I think you have to come up with a list and work through whether the schools you are viewing have the things you want or not and take it from there. Good luck with your search!

Newme2016 · 04/11/2020 14:16

I do have first hand experience of Chandlings, all the way from nursery to year 6. Thank you very much.

OxfordBlues · 04/11/2020 15:11

@Newme2016 Apologies! My comment was not directed at you. It was a hangover of a previous thread that I responded to where there was a lot of speculation but no one had first-hand experiences. My bad for simply copying and pasting.

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