What does 109 and 118 mean in SATS scores please?

[Hunnybears]

(DC is 11) I was given those scores on a piece of paper and advised when schools go back they could go in to it further. That’s what DC got in the mock SATS and they’ll use those scores to advise secondary school where children are academically.

109 Maths
118 reading and comprehension

DC doesn’t struggle at school I know that much and did pass the admission test for the local grammar but those scores are completely arbitrary to me...

Doesn’t anyone have any idea where they are in relation to whether they are expected etc...

Many thanks

I mean does* anyone lol

Maybe google it.

Nobody ever asks "what does a score of 75 mean", do they?

100 is expected level. So they are very good scores, particularly reading and comprehension. Is my understanding.

Are they the same thing as cats scores or different?

As I believe 100 is the average for them too?

I don’t think you can get 75! my daughter scraped 100 in her mocks and she worked her socks off for that.

Usually, SATs tests are taken, then the scores are scales on a point scale from 0-120. Several raw scores can give the same scaled score.

Last year's scores here. So, for example, in English, last year a score of 48, 49 or 50 gave a scaled score of 120.

A scaled score of 100 is 'expected' (pass) and a scaled score of 110 is greater depth.

Your school has given you, presumably, the mock results. They are giving you an indication of what your child would have got had they sat SATs.

Oh dear.

Sorry, I meant that they are scaled on a scale of 80-120, not 0-120.

I think (by last year) that a score of 110 was demonstrating greater depth so 118 was greater depth in reading and comprehension and 109 very high age expected in maths.

109 is within the average band , 118 slightly above.

DS2 was the first year six to take the new SATS. IIRC the maximum score is 120. DS got 117 for maths, 112 and 104 for English/SPAG.
He's now year 10 and in top set for maths and set two for English at an excellent state school. Predicted 7-8's at GCSE across the board.
So very good scores, obviously bright, but not outstanding.

"118 slightly above" 118 is almost a top score.

It can be a bit irrelevant anyway. If your child struggles you know it without a test and if your child doesn't, you know it without a test.

DD2 struggles with comprehension (ASD). She still got greater depth for her English SATs because her school coached her with techniques that allowed her to skim text for key words. It doesn't make it any easier for her to actually understand texts, though. She just scraped a pass for maths but is doing quite well in secondary.

@autumnboys
@Thisismytimetoshine

I’m pretty sure people DO ask what scores of 75 are. 🙄

And Google as helpful as it can be is also full of shit nonsense. 🙄

Is it not better to get it directly from those that teach and can give more advise on scores and what they mean!

Your child has performed extremely well, especially in reading and SPAG, where the top score is 120. 100 is the bench mark and 110 or higher is above average (working at greater depth).

@JaniceBattersby

Oh dear what?

The scores are scaled from 80-120 with 100 being average, so your child is above average in maths and exceptional in reading.

109 is above average, 118 is nearly the highest you can get (which is 120)

To be fair, if you Google 'SATs scores' the very first result tells you all you need to know, without even clicking the link:

"The maximum score possible is 120, and the minimum is 80. To meet government expectations, pupils must achieve 100 in their scaled scores. However, this equates to different marks for each paper (maths; reading; grammar, punctuation and spelling) and can change each year."

Thanks for the advice. I know I can google it but I wanted it here it from those that are in the know and can go in to it a bit further.

I knew it would be at least where DC should be, but wanted to know what that means on the scheme of things. Google isn’t always my friend 😉

So if a child gets 120 what does that mean? That they are working at a 13 year old level? Would they go in to top set at secondary? Would it make no difference to secondary, does it just inflate the primary results scores?

These are things you ant really find on google

I was thinking of CATS/PIPS which are out of 141.

A score of 120 would mean top set at secondary if the secondary school uses SATs results to stream - some do, some don't. But a child who can get 120 should be in the top set whatever method they use.

At secondary we don’t really take the SATs into account too much for setting. They sit them in May and then we get them in September, We don’t find them reliable. Plus they are so heavily based on numeracy (I’m secondary maths) and we teach a lot more than numeracy. We do our own assessments in the first few weeks, and lots of schools have mixed ability for the first term or year anyway.
SATs results do generate a target grade for year 11 which we have to keep in mind, but that’s it. They’re not important for us.

Have you not asked this before OP?