Is it feasible schools open through the summer?

[FATEdestiny]

Boris says 12 weeks, which takes us to mid June.

To me, it would seem sensible to send children back to school June (aside from Y11 and Y13). Then have term time through to July. Have a "half term" week off in July. Then back to school through August and another week off for August bank holiday weekend and straight into normal Autumn term.

Effectively considering now an extended summer holiday.

What are your thoughts?

Where is the money coming from to pay the teachers?

Lovely, if teachers weren't working through this shutdown. Which we are.

But school staff are all still working , talks of working through Easter to keep key workers children in childcare.

People will have holidays booked then, including the staff so can't see it being practical.

No, this is not feasible.

Aside from anything else, we will be in the middle of a crisis still. People have booked holidays. Teachers are still working during the closure.

I'm a teacher btw (and a parent, and a governor).

I'm aware teachers work from home ALL THE TIME! Without coronavirus, the profession is well versed in working whilst outside of the classroom / school.

Unprecedented times call for thinking outside of the box.

My son's school has confirmed that's its staying open through the Easter holidays. Many parents at the school are NHS key workers so it's offering a very valuable service to them.

All other pupils are receiving 5 hours of tasks to do at home per day set by their individual subject teachers who will then mark the work when it's been emailed to them.

The teachers will still be working through this , just in a different way. They will need their summer break I'm sure!

I'm in a support role in a school. Who gets paid 36 weeks a year I.e don't get paid for August. Who's going to pay for that month because I'm fairly sure my skint school won't

Staff in my school are offering to come in at Easter. No one wants to raise the question of whether we will be paid or not. Surely we can't be expected to do it unpaid? It doesn't affect any other workers apart from school staff

My son's school has confirmed that's its staying open through the Easter holidays

Surely the parents can just use the childcare that they would use anyway? Schools are not for childcare, it's OK (ish) during term time and a crisis like this but not in holiday time.

I'm a school worker.

I'm working and haven't been told otherwise.

Not been asked about Easter although I've seen it posted as possibility.

My ds is year 11. Everything cancelled. Yet as a key child on ehcp he'll have to keep going on because I have to work.

I'll swap weeks to cover. No problems. If they will cover ds over holidays whilst I work. But I'm not working for free when we are facing re structuring as it is.

Hopefully when we come out the other side of this the government will start valuing the role of teachers and school staff and the need to fund schools appropriately. We can only but hope.

Each but the childcare they usually use I'd probably AL, holiday clubs (which will be closed) or grandparents who probably can't be used either.

but the childcare they usually use I'd probably AL, holiday clubs (which will be closed)

Then the holiday clubs need to be told by the government to open.

Teachers are still going to be working through this- either at school or at home. Are we going to be paid if we are open in August- of course we won't - I won't be doing it for free...

Are we going to be paid if we are open in August- of course we won't - I won't be doing it for free...

Are you suggesting teaching staff dont work through the summer?!

This is a thinking completely out of the box situation. Lots of unusual and unprecedented things are happening right now.

Who is going to be staffing these schools during the summer holidays? We are all still working every day even though the pupils aren't in, so I will be having my 6 weeks holiday that I'm entitled to.

I would love to give children time to learn the curriculum areas they may have missed, but teachers would be on their knees if we are working constantly from June to December (half term is a working week prepping for the next 6-8 weeks; every other week is about 60 hours minimum). We would not be able to teach at all effectively, which defeats the point of opening for teaching longer.

There will be nothing normal about Autumn term 2020, especially if school closures last longer than June. We may be teaching children who've not been at school for 6 months, many of whom may have experienced trauma of all types in this time.

Stay safe all

Wb 23-Mar, 30-Mar - work at home (2 weeks)
Wb 6-Apr, 13-Apr, 20-Apr, 27-Apr, 3-May (5 weeks holiday)
Wb 10-May, 18-May, 25-May, 1-Jun - Work from home (4 weeks)
Wb 8-Jun (1 week off as "half term")
WB 15-Jun - everyone (hopefully) back in school

WB 15-Jun to WB 31st August is 11 weeks. A week of in the middle makes two 5 week half terms.

Many other professions are having to radically change working practices and do things very differently to normal. Not one point raises so far here gives a valid reason why teachers should not have to too.

FATEdestiny - where are you getting the working from home and all those weeks of holiday? Schools are STILL open, teachers and TAs will STILL be in school working a full weeks but instead of having any time off at easter they will STILL be working in school, for no extra pay. Teachers are paid an annual salary for 195 days of teaching, split into 12 equal payments. There will be no overtime. Just burnt out teachers who won't be fit to teach at all when the schools reopen to the full body of students.

The poor children will not get a break either.

So who, in the 5 weeks you have designated 'holiday' will be working in schools providing the keyworker and vulnerable children childcare that was announced yesterday (granted short on details) if not school staff? So no holiday?

This isn’t going to be over by June. Boris is warming us up, schools probably shut until Sept. likely to open but this could keep going until vaccine, so closures and new opening in a few months again.

not feasible at all

But why 5 weeks holiday from April and who will be looking after key worker and vulnerable children in that time?

All you've done is shift tbe 6 weeks holiday forward by several months. It doesn't solve tbe problem of who looks after the children in this time - with two weeks to arrange it now!

Many teachers are prepared to work over tbe Easter holidays, so we can change. But what you've suggested doesn't make much sense...

Yep - bingo - there it is.

Knew it wouldn't take long.

A lot of teachers are already working from home already.

No wonder teachers are leaving the profession in their droves.

Have you seen the long list of key workers? Together with vulnerable children and those with EHCPs, pretty much every child is still going to be in school!