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Yarm School vs Teesside High School

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MFLdad27 · 29/09/2019 18:13

Yesterday my partner and I visited Yarm School and Teesside High School for their open mornings. People have told us we will get a feel for the school that is right for us but we loved them both! We really cannot choose!

While both schools have very good results, our number one priority is that our little one really enjoys his time at the school that we eventually decide to send him to rather than his academic achievement.

Yarm offers so much in terms of clubs and extra-curricular activities- we’re sure he’d be able to discover new hobbies that he’d love! However, Teesside High seemed a bit more personal to us- the classes were smaller and it had a real family feel.

Does anyone have any experience with either of these schools? We still have a few months before we need to apply for a place in nursery but we’d like to make a decision soon- if only to stop torturing ourselves!

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m2016 · 17/11/2019 20:21

I have experience of both schools and without any hesitation I would recommend Teesside High over Yarm. Yarm is a very big school which has a very business feel with big class sizes. However, Teesside High is a school where all children are known by all staff. The staff are exceptional and really care for the children. Teesside also offers outstanding extra curriculum provision which starts from nursery. It is a wonderful school which most definitely follows it’s motto ‘Education as it should be’. Good luck with making your decision, I hope this helps.

Nyorks · 07/07/2021 17:40

@MFLdad27 do you mind me asking what you decided to do in the end? We are in the same predicament currently

MFLdad27 · 24/11/2021 12:51

@Nyorks sorry for the late reply! I haven’t revisited this thread since 2019! To be honest we are still very much undecided about which school to choose. As @m2016 said, we got the impression that Yarm is a lot more business like with larger class sizes, whereas Teesside High has more of a relaxed atmosphere and is more intimate. On the other hand our son might benefit from being in a larger school in the long term. I think we’re leaning towards Teesside High, but we’ll make our final decision after the open days in January. Our son will start in April next year, so we’ve still got a bit of time left to decide! If you don’t mind me asking, which school did you choose in the end @Nyorks?

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Nyorks · 24/11/2021 13:12

@MFLdad27 no worries! We are still so undecided, though I think now it is between Cundall Manor and Yarm, rather than Teesside High and Yarm for the same reasons you mentioned (Cundall is very small, great atmosphere and very family like).
Yarm has impressive results and is impressive overall, with so many extra curricular options and facilities, but I'm a bit worried our rather quiet/sensitive boy may fall under the radar in the larger class sizes/bigger school environment.
I really want him to enjoy school and enjoy learning and at the moment I have no idea which would be better for that.
We ruled out TSH due to it being slightly further away and there were a couple of things that we weren't quite sure of.
We have a daughter who is due to start nursery in April too.

MFLdad27 · 24/11/2021 15:20

@Nyorks A friend of ours recommended Cundall Manor to us. She said it was an amazing school with a lovely, relaxed atmosphere where children can really be themselves. She originally sent her son to Yarm School, but they felt it was a bit too corporate and decided to switch to Cundall for senior school. On the flip side I know a guy in his mid 20s who went to Yarm School and is now running his own successful golf cart business in Orlando! He said he can now walk into any environment and be at ease talking to anyone, which he said he learnt at Yarm. I really think whichever school we choose they are all excellent in their own right! I guess it’s just all about the feeling we get when we’re there. Plus we can always switch I guess! Very best of luck making the decision! Grin

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Nyorks · 24/11/2021 15:38

@MFLdad27 wow! I have to say you are completely right. I feel a little more at ease now that yes, whichever we choose will be the right decision Smile and if not, then nothing is set in stone!
All the best with your decision and to your little one starting school/nursery (wherever that may be!)

VikingsandDragons · 01/01/2023 21:48

Can I ask what you decided in the end? We've ruled out Teesside High but would be very interested to hear of recent experiences with Yarm. I know a lot of people who went through there very happily but none in the last decade since the head changed.

m2016 · 02/01/2023 08:21

It’s such a difficult decision. I think both Teesside High and Yarm have open days coming up. Whilst Yarm looks impressive it’s far too big for what we were looking for in a private school. We know of a few people who have taken their children out recently as they felt it was too impersonal. Teesside High is an amazing school. It was awarded the highest grades possible in all areas in its recent inspection and we couldn’t be happier we chose there over Yarm.

Nyorks · 02/01/2023 11:53

We did choose Yarm and have been extremely happy with the school. Not impersonal at all so far. Happy to answer any questions if you want to drop me a message @VikingsandDragons

gcayte95 · 10/03/2023 07:28

@Nyorks @VikingsandDragons Sorry to ask on a slightly older thread - but if you had chance could you let me know what things you were unsure of with Teeside High/made you rule it out? We’re currently deciding between Yarm and Teeside High for our little one (Cundall Manor too far to travel). Thank you!

VikingsandDragons · 10/03/2023 09:10

Hi @gcayte95. I'm going to preface this by saying ours haven't started yet, and this is our takeaway and everyone has to form the opinion that's right for them and their child, we made the decision on our children's abilities, interests and personalities. Ask me again in a year I might say differently for all I know! And I'm aware there will always be an element with all schools where parents have to believe they made the best choice because who can face the idea they haven't sent their child to the best place they could?

Have you been to visit yet? Visiting made it pretty clear to us which was our best option, and speaking to aquaintances solidified that decision.

However while we intended to wait until secondary to send both of ours we have been so impressed by Yarm that we've made the decision to move our younger child over to the prep.

We didn't like that in national league tables Teesside High does significantly worse than Egglescliffe, while grades aren't everything I didn't fancy paying a grand a month to quite possibly do worse on an individual level than the local state school. They did explain this to us as they get children with additional needs who don't meet the criteria for specalist provision, but who would struggle in a large state environment. So it's great that those children have this option and clearly it's a good choice for them however with such small year groups we were concerned that there isn't the ability to meet the needs of both ends of the spectrum if their results are that mediocre. Additionally one of ours has social and emotional support needs, but is academically doing very well, and the senco (or whatever the title was at Yarm) spoke to us for more than 2 hours to make sure they could meet their needs in a way that would help her achieve what she's capable of while feeling supported and they put a plan in place even for her to do the entrance exam and settling in day. We really loved this.

TH didn't seem to be confident in their capacity to provide stretch goals for one of our children who is extremely gifted in maths, it was a very general 'oh we'll give him extra work if he finishes early', they kept talking about no child being left behind, which is great, but actually we are sick of him being unchallenged and loosing interest in a subject because he finds things too easy.

We felt that Yarm was much more invested in the child as an individual. We had an email after the open day where they clearly remembered my child in detail from the visit, we had a call from the head after the entrance paper talking through their results and how they would tailor their offering to his level (this was at prep). On the open day they spoke to my child rather than us, making us feel like it was the child they were interested in rather than us as a customer. They certainly spoke to us as well to answer questions or make us aware of things that might not matter to our child but our child took the lead with them. Even when arranging the taster day to the prep they asked him his interests and suggested days to us when those would be on the timetable

Everyone we know who has gone to Yarm sings it's praises, but we have a friend who has pulled their child out of Teesside High and another who is currently struggling with the school not managing bullying well and considering their options. So it's very anecdotal but the sample of 10 or so families we know at either school were much more mixed for TH than Yarm.

For our eldest child there was just a much better range of subjects offered and we liked the promise that no A levels would be cancelled due to low numbers, as this is something friends children have struggled with that their A levels are either cancelled, or they work to fixed blocks ie pick one from column A, B and C whereas Yarm takes everyone's choices and tries to build a timetable to that (they do acnowledge usually there are 2 or 3 choices a year they can't make fit).

One of our children wants to work in a specalised area of IT, my DH also works in IT but in a different area but does manage people in her area. He came out and said he'd employ someone from Yarm at the level they've reached by age 16 into their dev programme starting on £45k because their curriculum was exactly right for the modern world. Both TH and Egglescliffe he said were what he'd expect and follows the national curriculum, but they're relying on further education to make it possible for someone to get a job in IT. Not saying everyone should strive to leave school at 16 and work, but if you already have that solid basis at 16 it's going to make the next stage of study feel a lot less daunting and it's also giving those IT skills to make use of tools such as AI, VR, 3D and laser modelling etc just part of their standard lexicon not an extra hill to be climbed.

Yarm is highly ranked nationally for sport, both of ours love their sport, but the prep school's attitude of 'everyone gets a turn to play on the school team if they choose to' was not something we've encountered elsewhere.

We loved the outreach work in Yarm, working with local businesses, getting outside speakers in very regularly, their emphasis on making starting your own business seemlike a normal option and skilling them to do so, charity work being integral to the children's education, also the huge range of trips, outside club provision and outdoors education. We felt that it was less likely to lead to a private school bubble mentality.

My brother went to Yarm, he's still close friends with his group from there, they're each other's best men etc, but more importantly they're all very happy, confident young men. I really feel Yarm's 'educating for life' motto is more than a slogan, they were given the tools for life to be content and self-assured and that's more important than any grades in a lot of ways. All of them are polite, well rounded, and generally nice people who you'd be proud to call your son/partner/employee. None of them relate to this perception of a grind mentality that some people talk about when thinking of private school, they felt supported to achieve rather than pushed to do so is how my brother described it.

But to be honest while we were certainly leaning one way TH did have a very caring attitude and smaller class sizes so we were considering it until the end of our visit. At that point the deciding factor was we took my parent around with us who is an educational consultant for a nearby authority, and they told us not to even think of sending them to Teesside High and if we couldn't afford Yarm to go to Egglescliffe instead. They felt that they were educating in a fixed and old fashioned way and if they were subject to ofsted they would struggle.

Please don't think I'm saying Teesside High is a bad school in any way, the staff seemed very friendly and welcoming and children feeling at ease in their environment matters a lot, we do know people who are very happy there, and they've obviously improved their facilities a lot in the last decade since I was last there, but we just didn't find a single area except for the fees being lower that we felt it was better suited to our children than Yarm. We felt like we'd always wonder what they'd have been capable of at Yarm if we picked elsewhere. Our decision came down to Yarm or Egglescliffe (we did visit Red House as well and really liked it and would certainly have considered that if they were starting earlier, but the lack of a Sixth Form ruled that one out for us personally because they move over to Yarm anyway at that point by what the teacher said), we ruled out Teesside High quite early.

m2016 · 10/03/2023 20:19

@gcayte95 It‘s such a difficult decision. I think it depends very much on individual children and their age as well. The Nursery at Yarm is very big and my eldest child found it too busy and I felt that some days the staff didn’t know what he’d been doing or had much interaction with him. The children are divided into groups and some assigned to the teacher and some a TA. Whilst the TAs were good that’s not what I was paying for. Having moved my eldest my next one did Nursery at Teesside High and the word that comes to mind is ‘wow’. The size was perfect, large enough for the children to make friends but small enough for the teacher to interact with all children on a personal level each day. As a parent I felt to feel so welcome and knew my child
was in the best hands possible.

gcayte95 · 13/03/2023 12:08

@VikingsandDragons @m2016
Thank you both very much for your replies and insight - both have some interesting points which we will consider.
We have booked to go to Yarm in May and then will attend the Teeside High open day in September so hopefully this will also help with our decision. They're both about the same distance from us and have the school bus that picks up near where we live. We're the same as you @VikingsandDragons and we have ruled out Red House due to having no sixth form.
We initially thought Teeside High due to the smaller class sizes as this was a key thing for us, but do think we need to weigh everything up. Its tricky as our son will only be 3 when starting so who knows what he'll like/be good at!

Nyorks · 14/03/2023 22:10

@gcayte95 sorry I hadn't seen your comments. Please feel free to message me with any questions. Happy to give a recent account of life at Yarm but the post would be rather long :)

Olivetree46 · 28/11/2023 00:12

Hi!
I actually went to both and would fully recommend Yarm over THS. I was victim to Institutional bullying at THS, and from what I hear from my friends that have just left, the politics of the school are still the same. There are clear favourites, it’s smaller therefore when there’s an issue it becomes hard to deal with, for example if you have an argument with one friend, they’ll either be on your side or you’re on your own. If you have an issue with a teacher, it can cause all the teachers to have an issue. I know multiple people that have left due to the corruption around bullying and the way they hide it if it’s a student they like. Yarm give so much more opportunity and experiences for children, I also worked as a student assistant at the holiday school and the activities are amazing. Truly Yarm>THS

VikingsandDragons · 28/11/2023 08:39

I got the notification this morning and we're only a term into Yarm but daughter comes out absolutely buzzing every night which is wonderful to see, she was having some issues with a long term condition flaring up when she started year 7 and we got daily phone calls on how she'd managed that day, what they'd done to support her, anything we needed to be aware of or we wanted to raise with them, this tapered to weekly as it started to be less of an issue, but I have the phone and email of all her teachers and wellbeing team, SENCO etc if I have any concerns they've always replied within 24 hours. It has been a fantastically caring and supportive environment for her to move up to.

Olivetree46 · 01/12/2023 12:33

I’m glad she’s enjoying it! I only left a couple years ago and I can definitely say I absolutely wouldn’t be here without some of those teachers and their support. I developed a chronic illness while there and got diagnosed while at sixth form the support I got from the head of sixth form and most my teachers was amazing. I’d definitely stay for sixth form, I know she’s only in year 7 but always got to be thinking about stuff like that :))

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