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hmb · 20/09/2004 18:45

I have just finised marking a class set of homework for a second set (very able) of kids in Y9. These are nice kids who I enjoy teaching. There were 25 in the class, one was away on the day the work was set. Do you want to guess how many were done?

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popsycal · 20/09/2004 20:25

er......we use it with KS3.....

popsycal · 20/09/2004 20:26

but i suppose it has to fit your area...

we actually got the idea from a really rough 11-18 school in our area where it works a treat...

hercules · 20/09/2004 20:27

hmb- there will always be parents who support their kids in not doing homework. Is it any wonder why we have some of the problems we do when some parents encourage such bad mouthing.

Hopefully there will always be more supportive parents than unsupportive parents.

IT is true that parents have high expectations but arent always willing to do their bit and instead choose to support their children against the school.

maddiemo · 20/09/2004 20:29

At my sons primary they have a weekly raffle. They earn merits which are put in a box on Friday and the winner gets a small bag of sweets.

Slightly off topic. My eldest is in yr 7 and he achieved a credit for being the only child out of a class of 28 to turn up for detention. Thye have only been at school a few weeks

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hmb · 20/09/2004 20:33

That is what is getting me so down tbh. I am reaching the point where I feel that I will have to quit mumsnet. I know that should rather melodramatic and it isn't supposed to. I'm just well are truly sick of teaching getting a kicking on here. I know that there are some wonderful supoprtive people, but it seems that everyday so teacher is having a hate fest thrown at them for reacting on eway or another. Either they are to strict or too lenient. there is nothing that we seem to do that helps. Ah well such is life.

And life is where I will return , life after mumsnet. So long it was fun for a while. I'd like to thank all my mates for their help over the years, you are a great bunch of girls, all the best.

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popsycal · 20/09/2004 20:36

hmb some time ago, when THAt education thread was doing the rounds, i quit looking at education thread entirely...it is only in the last few weeks that I have returned....

don't leave us - just ignore education threads for a while

worked for me

fisil · 20/09/2004 20:38

I'm sorry you feel like that hmb. I'm sorry too that I misjudged your mood on the other thread - I hope you're not upset, I thought I was joking with you. I sometimes feel like teachers are under fire here, and a lot of times I just can't believe the tales of teachers people tell - they just seem so far removed from my experience. Is it that there are teachers like that, or is it how it seems from a parent's perspective? I hope you really don't go, but I understand how you feel.

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hmb · 20/09/2004 20:41

No, I'd have to go cold turkey! See, I can't quit even now. The downright rudness of some posters, who brag about how much they hated school and teachers has finally got to me. They all hate school but are happy enough to use it as free child care, while undermining the teachers attempts to educate their children. And this realy is't a call for a 'group hug for the teachers'. I've just had a guts full.

There are some great people on mumsnet, i'm just sick of having a kicking all day in school and then logging on for another one, well, sod that for a game.

I'll cuddle my kids more, much better idea

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SoupDragon · 20/09/2004 20:42

But hmb, it's not just teachers that get stick, it's doctors, hospital consultants, old people, men, 4WD drivers, nursery staff, working mothers, SAHMs... If they all disappeared from MN, there'd be no one left.

Don't go!

Frenchgirl · 20/09/2004 20:42

hmb where do you think you're going???? please stay so that I can read your posts and go: mmmmm, that's exactly what I thought only she can actually put it into words. I know what you mean about teachers getting a kicking on MN, but some education threads are a true eye opener for a lot of us. I for one have learnt an awful lot about the education system in the UK and the way teachers work here and the problems they face, you have no idea how much I have learnt and I probably am not the only one. I want my dd to have the best education possible so that she can reach her full potential and that's why I pay for it, and that's why I support the work her teachers do with her.
I hope you come back to MN, we need you.

popsycal · 20/09/2004 20:43

....and health visitors....

Hulababy · 20/09/2004 20:44

I know exactly how you feel hmb, and certainly after THAT other thread (the one Popsy's talking about) I also became very disillusioned with people's negative attitude towards teachers, teaching and education in general.

The trouble is, I often feel, - everyone has been to school, therefore everyone feels that they know what working in a school is all about.

I moderate education, and get cross about attitudes on here. I sadly feel it does reflect what is thought in the wider world. What chances have schools got? Most of the time teachers can't do right for doing wrong.

I would love to know what parents would actually do themselves:

  • What consistent form of discipline would they allow (apparantly lines and detention are out already this week, amongst others)?

  • What homework policies would they choose for a school (again consistent) to ensure that the whole syllabus of every course is covered?

etc....

I always end up thinking: if teachings so easy, simple and good life - why is there a chronic shortage?

Sorry, ranting but I know EXACTLY how you feel.

Slinky · 20/09/2004 20:46

Hmb

I didn't want to type a "awww, please stay" type-thing (can't stand them myself!) but just wanted to say that you WILL be sorely missed. I really do enjoy reading your teaching threads with the other "teacher" mumsnetters - even though I'm not a teacher, or have a child in Secondary.

You sound so dedicated and enthusiastic in your job and I can only hope that my kids will get a teacher like you once they reach Secondary - to follow on with the fabulous teachers they've got in their lovely Primary school.

I do understand the way you feel - I sometimes feel like that when people constantly knock nursery workers and it's hard to stomach after a while.

I wish you well

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hmb · 20/09/2004 20:47

THis is kind, but it is doing my head in, so bye!

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hercules · 20/09/2004 20:47

I know how you feel hmb. It's like when you give up your weekend to take kids somewhere unpaid. Parents turn up late to collect kids and noone bothers to say thanks.
I no longer give up my weekends....

Hulababy · 20/09/2004 20:47

hmb - don't lave MN over this though. It isn't worth it. If necessary, jsust avod the education threads for a while (or for good). Quite often now I don't even bother with some threads as I can see where they are going.

As a moderator for the education forum I find it really difficult. I try and ensure everyone has their own views said, but I don't have to agree with it all.

charliecat · 20/09/2004 20:48

hmb, please dont go, just dont go near anything to do with teaching or education...that way you can enjoy MN without feeling your being got at. And like Soupdragon said It really isnt just teachers, Its people who dont breastfeed, people who do but wean early, the smackers, the well anyone and everyone really!!
Stay!
At least your trying with these kids, which is more then can be said for some of the parents. As im sure you well know.

Jimjams · 20/09/2004 20:52

But I've said twice this week that ds1's new teacher is the most fantastic person I have met recently (even in a thread where I was moaning about something to do with schools). And I say nice things about my HV!! And my GP!

Estate agents??? Hmmm I might struggle Have a rest if you want hmb, but do come back

hercules · 20/09/2004 20:52

I have to say there are plenty of crap teachers out there.
However, that's not anything to do with the issues you are talking about. There will always be an unhappy parent no matter what you do slagging you off. I remember one parent being digusted with me as her son wasnt allowed to sit next to his friends. That was more important to her and so to him then him actually working.

SueW · 20/09/2004 20:52

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tamum · 20/09/2004 20:58

Hmb, I will really miss you. Please don't go.

suedonim · 20/09/2004 20:59

Hmb, I think rather a lot of people, including me, would really, really like you to stay on MN. I don't contribute much to your threads (I'm just an education 'consumer' via the dd's, not a teacher) but when I see your name I know the post will be worth reading.

coppertop · 20/09/2004 21:11

I hope you come back soon, hmb.

If you like I'll be a "hmb moderator". If I catch you posting on an Education thread I'll turf you out.

MeanBean · 20/09/2004 21:59

Which thread has particularly got your goat this week HMB (sorry if I'm being thick, didn't pick up the nuances, or missed it altogether)?

As others have said, everyone gets a bashing. Also I think by its very nature, because it is anonymous, people say what they really think and aren't diplomatic the way they are in RL. And as on the whole, people post about problems, concerns, stuff that they're unhappy about, rather than stuff that's going all right, you'll inevitably get all the negative stuff with teachers, GP's, midwives, etc. etc., rather than the positive. And you'll get more stuff about those groups than estate agents or accountants, because that's what takes up large amounts of parenting time.

I hope you don't disappear forever - I always find your posts thoughtful and well-argued, even if I don't always agree with them.

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