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KS2 SATS help please!

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Ilikesweetpeas · 09/07/2019 16:40

I don't understand my child's results! Is "achieved standard" the highest they can get? Child got 112 but comment says, "achieved standard" yet accompanying letter says 110 is, " greater depth". Please help me interpret this.

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whojamaflip · 10/07/2019 22:26

Ds 2 scored well under 110 in all his SATs last year - I was really upset as I'd been told by his yr6 teacher that he was on track but his sat scores did not reflect this.

Fast forward to now and he's just finishing his first year at secondary and has been in top sets across the board after his cat testing in the autumn term and has been comfortably keeping up all year.

I agree with a pp that it's only a snapshot of how they did in a particular week and it's not always the best reflection of their abilities.

MyOtherProfile · 10/07/2019 22:37

@user1494670108 that's not what a scaled score means. All the results given out to parents are scaled scores. It just means the raw scores have been adapted to fit into the 80 to 120 range.

@welliesarefuntowear expected is 100. You're a great example of making sense of sats though. In the case of your DC it's not about whether he has hit 100 but whether the school have helped him make progress.

SleepyFlump · 10/07/2019 22:42

In all three subjects, the raw marks are re calculated on a scale of 80-120.
80-100 is below average, or working towards expected standard. 100-110 is achieved expected standard and 110-120 is what they call greater depth.

MyOtherProfile · 10/07/2019 22:45

@Ithinkmycatisevil it's pretty unusual for a secondary school to set from day 1. I know a few that do set for a few things at the start of yr 7 but that's mostly based on their CATs. I've asked several teachers at several secondary schools through my work how much notice they take of records from primary schools. The answer so far has invariably been none. They prefer to make their own assessments of a child.

user1494670108 · 11/07/2019 10:40

@myotherprofile - apologies I just reread my thread, what I meant to say was that I hadn't realised that 110 or over on the scaled score was greater depth.
I actually think the scaled scores are very helpful once you get your head around them (DH kept complaining that they dont add up and had to have it explained several times Grin)

MrsBlythe · 16/07/2019 13:43

Someone upthreads child got 120 in everything!!! How many kids get this each year? I think it’s about 9% that are scored over 110 in all categories?

Applepieco · 16/07/2019 23:28

What I don’t understand is when parents/teachers say ignore them, they don’t mean anything. Even if secondary don’t use them for initial setting, don’t they use them for Progress 8 tracking? Therefore they have quite a big impact on the ‘path’ the child will be on in secondary? This is what a secondary school teacher told me?

TeenTimesTwo · 17/07/2019 15:27

don’t they use them for Progress 8 tracking?

Yes

Therefore they have quite a big impact on the ‘path’ the child will be on in secondary

Maybe.
Some schools will forever report based on progress against a pathway from KS2 results. So if your DC over achieved at y6 they will forever be behind target at secondary.
Other schools will do their own assessments in the first term of y7 and then go from there, generally paying more attention to what they see in-front of them. (even though they will be keeping an eye on the official tracking too).
No decent school should keep a child 'down' because of their KS2 score. So eg you would expect a school to prevent a child from doing Higher maths or triple science just because they only scored 95 on their KS2 SATs.

TeenTimesTwo · 17/07/2019 15:27

would not expect!

MyOtherProfile · 17/07/2019 15:30

While schools will use them for the progress 8 they often do still prefer to use their own assessments / CAT testing for placing children in yr 7. I wouldn't think very highly of a school that set children based on SATs results.

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