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where to turn - uninspiring schools and increasingly "aspie" profile DS

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twaseverthus666 · 20/11/2018 23:16

First, we're not in the UK, we're in a small town in a Commonwealth country.

DS is 2 (last week). I suspect he will probably eventually be diagnosed with mild high-functioning ASD.

He is ahead of his peers at the Playgroup-type thing we go to every day, in that he's been speaking in sentences for a year, can read about 20-30 words if you write them out, can tell you what letters make up a word, can count (as opposed to reciting numbers in order), and do very simple addition and subtraction using lego or cuisenaire rods. He gets abstract concepts straight away and reapplies them unprompted. He can correctly identify about 100 animals and plants, and about 50 birds from birdsong. He can tell the stories of all his favourite books; loves jigsaws, lego, gear sets; he is fascinated by the idea there are different languages with words that can mean the same thing, also by music (current thing is having his mind blown that you can transpose into different keys, and that different-sized recorders play in different keys).

He is a very long way behind his peers in terms of self-regulation - he throws many tantrums a day, as well as being very behind in gross motor development (only just able to run, can't climb ladders, often forgets how to descend stairs, is extremely clumsy). He is an incredibly picky eater and often requires extreme levels of coaxing/accommodation/bribery to eat at all. He is typically in his own little world at playgroup - though he does know the names of everyone there, and tries to make friends with them, but is generally so shy and quiet that only one or two children ever actually stop long enough to notice he's talking to them. He is often unable to cope with the noise and chaos at playgroup, to the extent we have to go home for him to calm down. Once we're home he's generally fine, sitting on my knee reading a book, or playing lego or doing jigsaws with me.

Our local state schools are all ones with very big classes (60-80 kids with 2-3 teachers) and no formal sit-down instruction at all, just kids running round a big room, sitting on the floor or on beanbags, doing "independent learning" on iPads while teachers run breakout groups to do small-group teaching. The classrooms are noisy, often with pop music on in the background "to help the kids concentrate", and the teachers often don't have the training, resources or time to actually teach effectively under these conditions - they spend all their time doing crowd control. Kids who like quiet and structure tend to fail hard and early.

We have one local private prep which does very traditional teaching, has small classes and quiet classrooms. It's just ok academically (not stellar, and pretty unimaginative) and the attitudes of the parents (very capitalist right-wing) are not my cup of tea at all.

Anyone got any suggestions on where to turn? Homeschooling curricula? Job offers back in the UK for academic husband? (joking on that until we know what post-Brexit chaos looks like)...

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BottleOfJameson · 21/11/2018 07:11

It does sound like none of the schooling options available to you are suitable for DS. Obviously kids can become less asynchronous over time but where he is now it sounds like he'll need significant support emotionally and socially and also a very specific environment to enable him to feel comfortable enough to learn.

Homeschooling might work academically but how would you support DS to progress socially? My eldest has a somewhat similar profile (he was assessed as being highly gifted but had some social issues). He is at a small nuturing prep school in the UK and is progressing really well. Over time he appears less different from his peers but a supportive school who knows and understands him has been vital.

twaseverthus666 · 21/11/2018 07:36

Thanks - yes the prep would be ok in terms of nurturing but i suspect we might need to effectively homeschool him in the evenings to give him the academic input he clearly enjoys and seeks out.

Any advice on how one might open a discussion on somehow providing in-school differentiation for markedly 2e kids? If I need a teaching degree I've just got time before he has to start school...

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BottleOfJameson · 21/11/2018 09:45

Remember that he's only 2 so while he may continue to excel academically they may also catch up - there is a huge development range at that age.

Potential Plus is a good resource (it's UK based but has god general information). You don't need to worry too much about home educating him in the evenings, gifted children mainly need resources provided and they'll learn what they want when they want - they don't need pushing!

If he continues to excel academically obviously he should be enabled to do so within the school environment - how that happens depends on the individual school. It's very important though that you concentrate on his emotional needs - it's easier to focus on the academics (because the child is good at that) and neglect the other areas which are going to be vital as he progresses up the school system.

brisklady · 21/11/2018 11:20

I wouldn't make too many assumptions yet. My son was very, very similar to your description at that age. He is now in Year 6 and has thrived at his state primary (admittedly a more traditional UK school than the settings you describe). I still think he might be on the very mild end of the ASD spectrum - he doesn't find socialising easy and is happiest doing his own thing - but he rubs along perfectly well with other kids at school, does very well academically and is a generally happy chap. We never pursued a diagnosis (although we did consider it early on) because he really doesn't experience any problems. It may have come back negative anyway - he may just be on the very bright and quirky end of 'normal'. He finally started to settle properly at pre-school at around 4. If you'd told me when he was 2 that he'd be where he is now, I wouldn't have believed it.

crazycrofter · 21/11/2018 12:51

Is there a home ed community at all where you live? Presumably you don’t work so would be able to do this?

If there are other children for him to mix with them I’d go for home ed, at least til 7. You don’t really need curricula at this age - just read, do maths and explore! We home educated our son from age nearly 9 til 11 and we did use books and resources st that age. There’s loads of stuff, especially online, so it’s not difficult. But where we are there are lots of home educators and lots of stuff going on. That might not be the case for you?

Kokeshi123 · 22/11/2018 00:26

Our local state schools are all ones with very big classes (60-80 kids with 2-3 teachers) and no formal sit-down instruction at all, just kids running round a big room, sitting on the floor or on beanbags, doing "independent learning" on iPads while teachers run breakout groups to do small-group teaching.

Wow, seriously? That sounds appalling. I'm dying to know which country this is...?

twaseverthus666 · 22/11/2018 04:05

@BottleofJameson - yes of course, the emotional aspect is why I lean towards the prep school. Discussions with a few people since I posted confirm that the prep school is good on nurturing. And yes, many of the others will catch up, though I'm concentrating on giving DS the most nurturing and enrched childhood I can (and of course their parents are too - trying to say that i"m mostly focusing on us rather than them - my original description was intended to illustrate markedly asynchronous development that is a bit unusual at the moment, rather than to say "he is a genius and the others will never catch up").

@Brisklady - yep, I'm very much aware this could all change a lot. Am mostly trying to go on current trends because we have to get on waiting lists for enrolment.

@Kokeshi123 sorry, I'll leave that to you to find out as all this is probably a bit too outing to anyone who knows about this system.

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