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Behaviour in Y7

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Screaminginsidemeagain · 16/11/2018 10:52

My DC is in Y7 and I think in top sets, great really pleased but......
The ‘naughtiest’ child in the year is basically in all the same classes. This is an extremely disruptive child, doesn’t sit still, answers back, shouts out, throws things, rude, swearing, has to be physically removed from classes etc etc. The first time this child went into ‘inclusion’ my dc came home saying ‘wow we get twice as much done in class when *** isn’t there’. Dc is easy going, polite and kind, tried to get naughty child to come to class one day but child decided to skip- this is when the inclusion started and dc really noticed the difference in class.
Dc has been sat next to them in at least one class - which I will bring up as I really hate the whole sit a naughty child next to a nice one to get them to behave thing.

Now I don’t want to be that parent but if One class is getting half as much work done and the other classes this is an issue. It isn’t fair on the other children.
For background in primary a whole year was basically written off when a child with behavioural issues joined.

I know there are going to be comments along the lines of excusing behaviour because there _might be SEN but I don’t believe other children’s education should suffer for the sake of one.
How long would you give it before you say something?

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Gileswithachainsaw · 16/11/2018 11:30

I think you are justified in saying something.

Sympathy won't get you your gcses will it.

Your poor kid. I can't believe they expect them to learn like that. But then I've I'd similar my end as well.

gloo77 · 16/11/2018 12:37

I'd wait - the school are trying to sort the other child out and it's only the first term. Think if the disruptive child was yours. The implication of getting them out of your DD's classes is that they're permanently excluded, which in time might need to happen, but it's right that the school tries different things to help them adjust. Your DD's clearly not freaked or scared by the child and remember she's only yr 7, there's a long time ahead, so I wouldn't worry about GCSE's. Wait until one term's done, then send a message to the Head of Year if you're still worried. Your DD sounds lovely btw. Being kind and tolerant is worth a lot. Smile

Gileswithachainsaw · 16/11/2018 13:47

I disagree. Being kind and tolerant doesn't translate to accepting any of what op has listed

Truth is being nice gets you know where. The and result is the same . If you complain and they have something in.place then they will just carry on attempting to implement it. Of they are hoping everyone sucks it up and everyone who doesnt complain.ends up on the ever dwindling list of people they will place next to the child who they know will put up with it ,meanwhile all the kids and up further and further behind .

6 weeks/6 months I don't see a difference really. The end result is a complaint. Best to know where you stand eearly on so you can stop wasting your time and explore any alternative options

Cauliflowersqueeze · 17/11/2018 19:57

No child should hold to ransom the learning of a class.

NoLeslie · 17/11/2018 20:01

You've got to say something. DD had this. The child in question didn't have enough support, they were as fed up as everyone else. I complained about how my child was prevented from learning due to the disruptions and feeling unsafe. Eventually the support was provided and everyone could learn.

Screaminginsidemeagain · 17/11/2018 20:30

Y7 parents evening isn’t until after Christmas. I am getting involved in PTFA and there is an event soon where I may have a chance to have a quiet word with HOY.
The schools are obviously trying to deal with this child and DC seems to be doing well despite said disruption but how much more could be achieved without it.

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NoLeslie · 18/11/2018 12:06

Fwiw I advise it's better to send an email. Not really fair to bring it up at an event. Good luck

marytuda · 19/11/2018 11:05

My DS, also Y7, is also a "victim" of this "naughty next to nice" policy, and has a couple of extremely challenging desk-partners so far . . . And like you OP I have wondered whether it is affecting his progress . . I did have to write an email about the very disturbing behaviour of one particular child, which appeared to go under the radar of the I think relatively inexperienced teacher in that class.
Our school I'm happy to report responded instantaneously. The child disappeared for a few days, is back now in class but much better behaved; the teachers all know and my DC is no longer anxious on that day.
Overall like your DC mine is v happy and doing extremely well, so I can't say I am very concerned, but clearly non-selective comprehensives will by their very nature have some very challenging pupils on site. It is how they are managed which counts.
And I don't mean to virtue signal here, but it does help me to remind myself that my kid is the fortunate one in this situation. I also think so long as he is coping well, it doesn't hurt him at all at this stage to come into contact with "challenged" kids. On the contrary, it can be a cue for some thinking about why some might behave in a way that is clearly not helpful for anyone least of all themselves.
I told the teacher who called me after I emailed that I didn't think punishment would help the offending child - what they really needed was a social worker! They agreed it was a worrying situation . . .

Carpetglasssofa · 19/11/2018 11:09

The HoY may be able to listen to your concerns, but they cannot and will not discuss a child with you who is not your own. And if they're at a school event, they're busy. If you want to talk to them, send an email or make an appointment.

seven201 · 19/11/2018 12:30

Send an email. They won't be able to discuss the other child, but you can state the impact it's having on your child's learning.

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