How to access GCSE grades by subject for a school

[Gonzoo]

Can anyone point in the right direction? I'm trying to find last years GCSE results by subject for a school and not managing that level of data.

It also allows you (with a pencil and paper in hand) to compare between subject groups, and compare subject groups with overall stats, to see whether there is a particular weakness in Science / Humanities / Languages or whether the results are typical of the school as a whole.

A lot of school results are fiddled. I hated it. Just looked on the Eton website- I can see the maths results for both gcse and a level.

cantkeep
Could you link the data for Maths GCSE for Eton, as its not on that site either
www.goodschoolsguide.co.uk/schools/eton-college-windsor
Does Eton not take maths?
or does it just not publish maths?
and odd that art is on that site but not on their own one

now do you start to see why I am cynical about non moderated statistics?

@talkinpeece- it’s in the document underneath the one you looked at due to change in grading to 9-1. www.etoncollege.com/userfiles/files/2018%20GCSE%20Statistics%209%20-%201.pdf

So e.g. a school with progress8 of 0.5 for English, 0.7 for maths, 1 for Humanities, 0.6 for science and 0.2 for MFL, against an overall progress8 of 0.6 could be said to have good humanities results but less good MFL results, and science results in line with overall school performance, with a proviso about confidence intervals.

Geography is in there too. Further maths isn’t usually taught at gcse. But if they had gcse students taking it early then those results would be under the A level statistics heading

Talkin,

I don't know if you directed that to me by mistake? The DfE data, as far as I know, is moderated / validated, which is why the 2018 is currently provisional.

Data on schools' own websites - no, of course, not moderated. Always fun to compare press releases on results day with DfE data when it is finally published....

tissue
so still no further or stats ?
and why not on the other site ?
lots of selective publishing going on ....

and only 65 out of 197 took Geography ....

PS Eton, its nothing personal, your data is better than most

Further maths isn’t usually taught at gcse
Sorry, what ?
FM GCSE and Stats GCSE are commonly used as extension materials in state schools to push the brightest

(I appreciate that the DfE site doesn't produce full data for some private schools - but I think the OP's query was about a state school, in which case data at the 'group of subjects' level is available for 2017 at the moment)

Maybe Eton just put them in for A level instead. I don’t work for them so I don’t know HTH. State schools that are near me don’t teach FM and Stats at GCSE.

Talkin...Eton maths statistics. Why would you go to the Good schools guide and not directly to the school's website?!?

Also, most of these schools don't so Further Maths or stats regularly at GCSE.

Talkin, these schools don't feel the need to do an exam to "push the brightest". They, despite the slur of spoon-feeding, have a challenging enough curriculum which is not solely exam-topic based to interest the brightest. My son's school which routinely has IMO gold winners does not do statistics or Further Maths at GCSE. Not seen as necessary.

I am not surprised by the geography number - it is one of the elective subjects and many choose not to do it.

believe it or not, it is not selective publishing. there are core subjects which all students must take: a modern language, the 2 english's, maths, the 3 sciences. Then the following:

• one amongst art, music, drama, engineering

-the 3 more amongst the following: another modern language, latin, ancient greek, history, geography, ancient history, moral philosophy, computer science.

Again, talking, don't know why you can't seem to access the SPGS data:

spgs.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/IGCSE-9-1-Summary-Statistics-Summer-2018.pdf
spgs.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/IGCSE-Combined-Summary-Statistics-Summer-2018.pdf

Perhaps music is not offered at GCSEs? it is in their a level results
spgs.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/A-Level-PreU-Combined-Summary-Statistics-Summer-2018.pdf

Unless you mean the type that are incredibly selective and only allow children to sit the exams if they are achieving a certain level. And let's face it, integrity from that kind isn't likely to be of the highest calibre anyway. Mind I also know of at least two state schools who do that!

I think that your statement in incorrect and unsubstantiated. My sons are both at very selective schools and there are required GCSEs then they can choose their electives - there are no feeder requirements. I am not familiar with all schools, but am familiar with schools within the M25 and some of the big boarding schools and none have a previous achievement level required to take a GCSE.

Further Maths GCSE no longer is approved for performance tables, so I imagine even fewer state schools will be offering it than previously. They can't afford the entries!

I did say SOME schools not all. And yes, some high achieving independent and state schools do indeed select which children can do which exams, some bit making that decision until further into year 11 too. I know some which do it in sixth form as well.

Local secondary to us definitely cherry picks which DC are allowed to take triple science (as opposed to double). Unsurprisingly they get very good results in the separate sciences (which get higher profile than the results of those doing double science).

Are language GCSEs actually required of all?
Such a waste of time for DS.

OP- have you directly asked the school for exactly what you want? Ours puts it in the information pack for prospective new parents at Open Days, so I am sure if anyone asked they would be given it.

And I don't understand why people object to strongly to schools deciding whether a pupil should take a particular GCSE. Absolutely no point in doing, for example, triple award science when you aren't going to do well, and would be better off doing double and getting a decent grade.

I did say SOME schools not all. And yes, some high achieving independent and state schools do indeed select which children can do which exams, some bit making that decision until further into year 11 too.

Yes, but not THE highest achieving independent schools, which was my original point.

Lljkk, yes all boys must do a language. Most boys have been studying a modern language for at least 3 years prior to choosing as well as at least Latin. It is not an education which is suits everyone.

Lljkk - it depends on the school. A MFL is part of progress 8 I believe hence why most do insist. But not all schools do. There's a little more leeway in some schools which don't publish progress 8 data for league tables for example. It is still generally recommended.