looking down on state school kids......

[brimfull]

dd who is 15 attended a conference in Paris this past weekend.It explains it \link{http://www.roundsquare.org/here}.Theirs was the only state school in attendance.
Despite having a wonderful time and meeting loads of new friends from all over the place she was quite shocked at the way some of the kids looked down on them because they were from state schools.
She was also extremely shocked with the way the girls from girls only schools were throwing themselves at the boys.

I have been reassuring her that it was the lack of maturity in the particular students and the petty name calling would more than likely be towards the privately educated if the tables were turned.They were the odd ones out ,so ripe for the picking so to speak.

No advice wanted ,just a bit sad that she's come away feeling like they are better than her for some reason.

[southeastastra]

argh

[twinsetandpearls]

infact the other candidates kept telling me how lucky someone like me was to get an interview and that I shouldn't be upset if I didn;t get a place as there were not many people like me who got to enter an Oxford college never mind get an interview or place!

[pointydog]

the poshest students like The Arts.

For a variety of reasons.

[Blandmum]

Of the 4 people studying Biochemistry in my collage, in my year, all 4 were from state comps.

I think it does 'depend'. Mind you, mine was one of 'snobbier' collages. If not the snobbiest. Rich, thick and full of clots, the cream of Oxford Collages

[Hulababy]

Have to say that so far im my experience the worst culprits for girls ogling the boys, and getting up to all manner of extra curricular(!!!) were the girls from the not so great co ed comp I taught at! What they knew and did was stunning fo me as an adult. Most of the girls I know who went through girls only schools were very niave in comparison! TBH so were an awful lot of the girls from the very good co ed state school on the whole though.


I find it very odd that people think that girls who go to girls only schools are in someway isolated from boys. Maybe at boarding school perhaps. But how many children do you really know who oly socialise with and only know the people they go to school with? Many will have brithers with friends, others cousins or family friends, or friends from where they live or other activities and clubns they go to.

And lets face it we have all come across girls like these - and they come from all walks of life really, and all types of schools. To suggest otherwise would be a bit daft surely?!

[beckybrastraps]

When I started College I was talking to some lad at a freshers do and after chatting (as you do) about where we came from (opposite ends of the country), he asked me what school I had been to. Confusing. Until he said what school he had been to. And I had heard of it. He was less impressed with my alma mater , and totally failed t make up for it by telling me how well I must have done there .

[twinsetandpearls]

I did theology, in the end I went to Kings thinking the people would be more "normal" they were but only slightly.

[twinsetandpearls]

Yes beckbrastraps I was always being asked what school I went to and getting very odd looks when I replied.

[pointydog]

The Arts. They all flock to the ARts.

If they don't, they might be quite down to earth, even with a touch of humility.

[NoodleStroodle]

I went to an all girls posh school...


and didn't the boys at Uni know it!

Don't know what happens in all girls schools but it is not healthy

[Judy1234]

TS it's about 50% state school pupils now at Oxford I think. I believe 10 - 20% of sixth formers are at private schools, more than at GCSE level, so it shows state schools doing pretty well there now, although may be that's very good state grammars in posh regions of the UK though.

[pointydog]

xenia, do you know how many private-ed students are studying The Arts at Oxbridge compared to sciences?

[Judy1234]

Not without checking. My daughter's friend from a private school is doing engineering. Presumably those state schools which don't do so well at some subjects - like encourage pupils to do easier A levels to help the league tables and have few doing maths and further maths or even languages have fewer there doing those. I think it's pretty hard to get to do English, law, medicine at Oxbridge whatever school you're from.

[pointydog]

My point is a large number of privately educated students study arts subjects. Not state.

[Judy1234]

I wasn't sure. I thought that the harder A levels like maths (I tried to persuade daughter 2 not to do science A levels as I think they are harder - I failed) might be less often done in state schools where media studies is promoted over french and psychology or law which are not really proper A levels over physics.

[KathyMCMLXXII]

Not many state school pupils doing Classics (I was one - state grammar).

[Greensleeves]

Modern History was a 50/50 split as far as I could ascertain (but its it an Arts subject? Or worse, a Social Science? And moreover, who gives a shit?)

[pointydog]

At the top-notch uni I was at, science fac ('harder' A-levels) had loads more state kids than arts faculty ('easier').

You are going on about low-achieving, knuckle-dragging state schools and I am saying the opposite.

[Greensleeves]

And you are both being bigoted and making silly generalisations

[Aloha]

My stepdaughter goes to an independent school. She's not like this at all. Yes, she likes boys, but she's 15 and she's normal.

[Judy1234]

Pupils who get to Oxbridge from bad schools (and I don't mean posh state grammars in that) have definitely done better to get there. The colleges know that and make allowances for that on grades etc which is fair enough.

[pointydog]

"making silly generalisations"

one of my hobbies

[franca70]

Hijacking:
KathyMCMLXXII did you do classics?

[Greensleeves]

me too pointy