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Well that's it! What are the options?

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fleshmarketclose · 05/01/2018 14:01

Dd is 14 has ASD and a statement of SEN not yet converted to an EHCP.
Dd is academically able and predicted 7 to 9 across her GCSE's.
Support in school has at times been abysmal but I have bullied them using the recourse of the statement being legally binding to get better support consistently given to dd. SENCO useless so all support overseen by HT as worried that I was going to have the LEA in court for not meeting the statement which would leave him facing their wrath. HT to give him his dues did ensure that statement was met and any problems (usually at SENCO's instigation) were always swiftly righted.
The support hasn't been enough even though I secured full time support with specific TA's who had specific qualifications and experience and the statement was tight,specified and quantified and TA's were forced to document support and communicate regularly with me, her teachers and the other TAs, SENCo/HT.
Dd's anxiety spiralled out of control, she began being unable to be in class,then being unable to do any tasks inside or outside of the class to school refusal.
School referred to CAMHS and referral refused because she didn't meet the criteria as seemingly her anxiety wasn't considered to be separate to the autism and autism isn't a mental health difficulty and her part time attendance in school meant that she didn't meet their parameters for school refusal. GP referred to CAMHS and that referral was also refused as considered not to be in sufficient need of support for them to accept the referral. GP referred to a paed who has the authority to overrule CAMHS and get her seen but it will be six months since first referral by then.
Dd hasn't returned to school since the new term started as the anxiety was so overwhelming she couldn't get out of bed.
I contacted school and the LA to let them know dd wasn't going back and LA need to consider that the placement has broken down and we are meeting next week to discuss options.
Long term dd needs a specialist placement, which in our LA means it will have to be an independent specialist school with the associated costs as we have no maintained specialist schools and so will end up at Tribunal to secure this.
Short term dd needs something different, but what? Realistically it will take me at least six months to get her into independent specialist school so y10 is a write off really. What is available for dc unable to go to school because I'm not going to home school? I know of the Out of School's Team but that is three hours a week and I'd like dd to have a lot more than that particularly when the LA will no longer be funding her full time support in school.
Does anyone know what is available and whether I can use her statement to get a better package of tuition for her until I get her into a school?

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SueSueDonahue · 05/01/2018 14:19

I don't know which LA you are in, but I know some independent schools with excellent SENCO support who take funded pupils from the state system. The LA declare it to be cheaper 🙄

With such a clear case such as yours I would be asking around to see if there is anything like that happening around you.

SueSueDonahue · 05/01/2018 14:20

PS what I mean is, it doesn't need to be a "specialist school". Does that make more sense?

fleshmarketclose · 05/01/2018 14:51

Yes I do know what you mean and know of an independent school that LA fund for a dc with ASD in our LA. The reason I think she will need specialist provision is more for the support for the ASD and the size of the school (dd doesn't cope with large numbers of people) but you have given me a push to check out the independent schools as well. Independent specialist will cost £50k plus per year so I'd imagine they would jump at independent as even with TA support funding it would be half that.

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SueSueDonahue · 05/01/2018 15:24

@fleshmarketclose also look at neighbouring LAs if still in travelling distance. It's a bit more complicated with funding, but not unduly so and could work in your favour.
An independent school I know of was most perplexed to have their neighbouring LA insist they pay more than the school fees they'd ask for 😆

I reckon you need a smallish school, small class sizes, very inclusive attitude towards anything and a great senco department.

I would write off this year either.

If you would like to, PM me your area but I guess it's unlikely you are near the one I know of...

Mary21 · 05/01/2018 15:33

Some people with kids on the autistic spectrum and school refusal due to anxiety use inter high. In some areas lea,s do fund for this.
Sos sen may be worth contacting. I don’t think they are back in till next week.
Home ed is another route some people in your position go down.

Mary21 · 05/01/2018 15:35

Sorry re read your message and I see home ed isn’t an option for you.

GetMeOut · 05/01/2018 15:55

I believe some LA will support, and fund, Interhigh. It falls under Home Ed but with a statement I think you will get funding. You do not have to home educate yourself. Interhigh is very interactive and supportive and follows the National Curriculum. It is basically like school but without the hassle of actually going there.

Lowdoorinthewal1 · 05/01/2018 20:41

I was going to suggest Interhigh.

Have you considered Limpsfield Grange?

beautifulgirls · 05/01/2018 22:04

It is well worth contacting IPSEA and they should be able to give you more information about the obligations of the LA to provide an education for your DD whilst the placement is organised. The LA can accept any suitable school indi or otherwise if they choose to agree so it is not inevitable that a tribunal will be needed though clearly still potentially needed. Being informed gives you the backup to push them to do the right things for your DD. They have an obligation to find a suitable placement but if they don't have an obvious one then you have a better chance of getting the placement of your choice if you can locate a suitable school with availability. Keep pushing - DD is at an independent specialist school and her costs are less than those mentioned in this thread. In our case we had to fight the LA but they wouldn't even consider anything for her other than mainstream and at tribunal the panel agreed with us and our evidence that a specialist placement was what she needed. Our choice of school became the default placement from there as the LA had not offered anything else suitable. She has been SO much happier since she moved and it was emotionally a big step for us but absolutely the right thing to do for her.

fleshmarketclose · 05/01/2018 22:33

Thank you all, I will get in touch with IPSEA and SOSSEN next week.I am pretty sure it will go to Tribunal as I had to do the same for ds as our LA fight tooth and nail. For ds the LA conceded on the morning we had leave for judicial review as they would not issue an amended statement following transition review for me to appeal Hmm The fees for the school I have in mind are very close to £50k pa and that is without transport.
For dd it's a little bit complicated in so far as her statement should be converted to EHCP by March. I'm already in dispute about that as the LA intend to send a draft based on dd's statement I have informed them that I won't be accepting any EHCP until they have fresh assessments made because the statement is no longer relevant anyway. LA keep quoting time pressures and I keep telling them that instead of sending drafts that will be refused order the assessments Angry It's like a little game they play almost to test the waters to see what they can get away with.
I know that after last time I should be used to it and let it go over my head but whilst it's a job to them it's my dd's well being that they are playing with and that hits me in the guts every time.

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