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o/t i know but brownies

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mammymax · 19/03/2007 18:02

can anyone tell me if the brownies have a policy on allowing girls to join

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princessmel · 19/03/2007 18:03

I don't get it.
Afaik anyone can join if they are the right age group and there is a space for them.

misdee · 19/03/2007 18:04

well yes, girls can join lol,.

Blandmum · 19/03/2007 18:06

They have to be 7. There has to be a place for them. There is a promice that involved 'God' (which god not specified), and this has been a stumbling block for some athiest would be brownies

The queen asl gets a mention, and that did for MI who was a Republican at an early age

mammymax · 19/03/2007 18:06

hi i know girls can join and at age 7 just need to know if you have a disibilty can you still join

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misdee · 19/03/2007 18:07

should think so. will ask dh carer(locval brown owl) tomorrow.

dd1 has a place after easter

Blandmum · 19/03/2007 18:09

oh I bet they can join. there is a girl in my ddswith sn

pindy · 19/03/2007 18:10

I would think so, I know the cubs do.

mammymax · 19/03/2007 18:11

thanks misdee just my daughter and her friend started after christmas,her friend is deaf anyway brown owl told her support worker who goes to brownies with her that they dont think brownies is the place for her because she is deaf,now i thought brownies was all about helping others,or it was when i went

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misdee · 19/03/2007 18:12

can she cite the DDA at her?

i cant see how being deaf is a problwem with brownies, does her support working sign for her?

Blandmum · 19/03/2007 18:12

found this on the guiding website

'If a girl is able to understand the Promise - this does not mean that she has to be able to say it - then she can become a member of Girlguiding UK.

Over the years several individuals have generously left large amounts of money to Girlguiding UK specifically to assist members with disabilities. Units can apply for funding to help a disabled girl or young woman enjoy guiding activities.

Girlguiding UK can also produce the majority of its resources in alternative formats for those with visual impairment. '

HTH

mammymax · 19/03/2007 18:14

thanks for that its her aunty that takes her. she can lip read and understand

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misdee · 19/03/2007 18:14

if she can understand, then brown owl needs a kick up tyhe bottom.

mammymax · 19/03/2007 18:16

so its wrong to say she cant go because shes deaf

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misdee · 19/03/2007 18:17

yes.

Blandmum · 19/03/2007 18:17

On the guides website they specifically mention guides who are deaf, so I see no reason why brownies should be any different.

Califrau · 19/03/2007 18:36

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mammymax · 19/03/2007 18:37

shes in hun but they dont think she should be because they say she cant do some activities

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WriggleJiggle · 19/03/2007 18:43

If the Brown Owl is awkward about things just go straight to the District Commisioner and explain. Around my way 'up north' they practically fall over themselves to reach out to disadvantaged groups - colour, social group, sn etc. They want to be seen as inclusive.

mammymax · 19/03/2007 18:46

how do i get in touch whith him or her.

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RubyRioja · 19/03/2007 18:50

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mammymax · 19/03/2007 19:16

im shocked and her mum is very upset about it. she says just leave it but i cant,they are stopping a little girl having fun and making friends all because they cant educate themselves about her.

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ForeverBlowingBubbles · 19/03/2007 19:28

That sort of attitude from a Brown owl makes me sick. My DD is at Brownies right now where one of the girls is confined to a wheelchair. Obviously she can't participate in EVERYthing, but the Brown Owl does everything she can to make sure she's included. Definitely contact the District Commisioner, you should have been given a bit of paper when your DD joined with her phone number on it somewhere.

Good luck,

FBB

LizP · 19/03/2007 19:51

I had a girl who was pretty deaf when I was a Brown Owl and it never caused any problems. She could lip read fine and I just made sure she was in a place she could see me and sometimes said things again for her, but probably no more than I did for kids who just weren't listening. Some games she would get less out of I guess (she could never be Grandma in Grandmothers footsteps) but it's not like we played that every week! And she had the advantage of not being able to hear my singing

Posey · 19/03/2007 19:56

Send her to my sister's Brownie Pack. She'd be more than welcome. Appalling attitude as far as I'm concerned

nikkie · 19/03/2007 23:18

Friends dd has Downs and she went to Brownies for years and loved it! We wouldn't have a problem with anyone with SN joining our Rainbows