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Lack of background checks on schoolworkers.

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Mirage · 24/06/2004 21:19

Reading the news about the lack of background checks into Ian Huntley made me think of when I worked in a Primary School.It bothered me so much at the time,that I left & it still bothers me now.I'd be interested to hear what other people think.

Back in 2001,well after the Soham murders,I was offered a job running a Gardening Club in a very well respected Primary School.I was fully prepared to be security checked & asked the Head Teacher how long it would take for the Police checks to come through ect.To my surprise he said that he didn't need any form of background check on me,as I would not be working unsupervised with the children.I duly started the next week.

I was left totally unsupervised with groups of 10-20 children,at least 3 of whom had severe behavioural difficulties.It was only good luck that there was never a serious incident.I was given no guidelines on how to handle inappropriate behaviour,no first aid training & no help with the children with Difficulties.

What was even worse,was that the class would take place at lunchtime & instead of going back to lessons after break,some of the children wanted to stay & 'help' me or go for a nature walk.I was very surprised when the kids told me that their teachers had ok'd this & didn't mind! Well no one had asked me if I minded.I checked with the teachers concerned & found that they were quite happy for their pupils to wander off with me.

Our nature walk was across the playing fields & into a spinney & to a nearby brook,to look for frogs ect.After the first time this happened,I resigned.It wasn't safe from anyones point of view.If one of the children had an accident-what would I have done? And as I had no security checks,in theory I could have been taking them off down there for anything & meeting up with anyone & no one would be any the wiser.Plus I had to protect myself-what if a child had accused me of something?

I wasn't a parent at the time & it worried me then.It seems even worse in retrospect,now that I have DD & know how vunerable & trusting little children are.I have to wonder if the parents at the school were aware of an unchecked person being encouraged to take their children off school grounds,especially during lesson times.If I even thought something like this was going on in a school my child was attending,I'd go spare.This school has a very good reputation & parents fight to get places there!

What do you think? What would you do if this was happening at your child's school?

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Angeliz · 24/06/2004 21:21

If it was and i knew about it, i'd be livid!

WideWebWitch · 24/06/2004 21:23

I think it's awful. I think in your position I'd contact Ofsted and copy the PTA and the governors. They need to deal with it, pronto.

Slinky · 24/06/2004 21:30

Mirage

The Soham murders didn't happen until the summer of 2002, and therefore none of the CRB checks etc were in the public eye as much as now (not even sure if they were in place then!).

I work as a volunteer in my kids school and although I'm never left unattended with the kids I have had a CRB check done through the school - even though I had one done in November 2002 when I was working in a nursery.

I'm very happy with the Security in place at our school and nursery. Anyone visiting both premises are NEVER left unattended.

tallulah · 25/06/2004 17:51

I was an LSA in 1997-98 & I had police checks & all sorts before I started.

tamum · 25/06/2004 18:14

I had to do an Enhanced Disclosure Scotland just to go in and help with reading in the class with the teacher once a week. EDS involves filling in a 4 page form, providing two references, and handing in my driving licence, birth certificate, letters from utilities and a bank statement, so kind of the opposite experience really!

mumeeee · 25/06/2004 20:44

No one is now a load to be employed by a school or nusery without a CRB check. Parents can help out at schools without one but they must never be left alone with the children. Most schools now ask the parebts if they will have CRB checks. Mirage even thogh the CRB checks wernt in place then, you should't have been left unsurpervised or taken so many children.
Schools would get into serious trouble if that happened now.

Slinky · 25/06/2004 20:51

Mine was an Enhanced Disclosure - purely because my nursery job involved changing nappies/taking kids to the toilet etc - basically I was "unsupervised" with kids all the time.

I think our school ones for volunteers are just "standard" as no volunteer is EVER left unsupervised with a child (although one Year 1 child asked me to take her to the toilet and I had to explain that unfortunately I couldn't because I'm not allowed).

Slinky · 25/06/2004 20:57

Nope - sorry I'm wrong, just checked - both my CRBs are Enhanced

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