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PeachyClair · 18/02/2007 12:09

I didn't put this in SN as I wanted a wider base of information.

Dear Sir

I am writing with reference to the report recently compiled by the Educational Advisory teacher Sue Flynn, and the need to make firm educational plans for the above child, who starts school in September.

I apologise that it ahs taken a few weeks to contact you, I felt I needed to give due consideration and research to the matter in order to ensure that Harold receives the most appropriate outcome for him.

Harold is a happy 3.5 year old who displays significant speech delays and many social and emotional problems. He has never been able to receive any help or support, first because of a problem with the Health Visitors, and then because of the complete lack of a Speech Therapist in Newport who could assess his needs and provide either with a access to a diagnosis, or any way of supporting him.

He is due to start school in September, and is currently at the nursery attached to Caerleon Endowed School. Since he started, and has been consistently observed with his peers, concerns have arisen and he has been seen by a Consultant Paediatrician and the Behaviour Advisory Teacher employed by the LEA.

I have attended several meetings with LEA?s and other professionals over the years, both in respect of my eldest son who has Asperger?s Syndrome, and in a professional capacity. I can honestly say however that I have never attended one where parental information was not sought, something that gives me real concerns in this matter.

Harold was observed by the Teacher on a Thursday, and we offered to meet with her that day, and were refused. An appointment was given for the following Wednesday, at which point we assumed it would be a discussion of our concerns with regards to Harold?s development, and an assessment of how he was developing in non school based environments- specifically, at home and with his childminder.

Instead however, we were presented with the report as a fait accompli as soon as s we entered the room- a room that was full of adults so that we felt unable to challenge anything said to us. We very much felt outnumbered. When we did raise concerns- such as Harold?s dribbling- I was told to remove his dummy (although the Teacher said it would be hard)- in fact, Harold does not have a dummy, as she would have known had she been sufficiently diligent s to ask.

We were told at the meeting that we could contact the Teacher to discuss concerns, however any contact details are a notable omission from the report given to us, rather preventing this action.

We do not feel this report is in any way an accurate representation of Harold?s abilities. Had we been asked, we would have been able to explain that activities involving puzzle like skills are in fact very much his forte. Also, although I am exceedingly surprised at the level of skill he apparently demonstrated at the assessment in fine motor skills, (something never before or since displayed), I have actually taught crafts to children, and he lives in an especially crafty household, so activities of that nature are very much the norm for him.

We have shown this report to our childminder, who shares our perceptions, and is writing a report herself for the Paediatrician, outlining Harold?s development as it is displayed within that familiar environment.

At the end of the meeting we were told that Ms Flynn would assist Mrs Sperry in completing a baseline assessment above those already completed. We received this on Thursday, as the school broke for half term. Far from allaying any concerns, it serves only to confirm and further underline the disparity between Harold and his peer group.

Given this information, we feel that the policy of wait and see that we were told to employ is inappropriate. Harold is at an age of immense importance in language acquisition: waiting and observing will have the effect of encasing any delays in concrete.

Previous informal discussions with nursery staff members have indicated concerns about Harold being placed into a mainstream school unsupported, however this policy seems to be the one preferred by the LEA.

I acknowledge that a lack of access to a speech and language assessment, caused by the lack of a special needs Speech Therapist in Newport, is a primary contributory factor here: however Harold cannot be allowed to suffer because of this situation.

As the parents of Harold, we cannot agree with this. Harold?s main attribute is his happy disposition: setting him up to fail, and thereby risking this security and happiness, is not an acceptable suggestion.

Harold, being a summer baby, is not legally required to start school in 2007, we could wait until 2008 if we wished. However, we are keen to enable him to access appropriate education as soon as possible.

To or minds, appropriate provision for Harold would be (in order of preference);

. A second year at the nursery, something we feel would greatly enhance Harold?s prospects of catching up on important skills, and learning interactive abilities. However, the Behaviour Advisory teacher told us this was against LEA policy

. A placement within a special needs nursery for a year

. A placement within a special school suited to Harold?s communication, social and developmental delays;

. 100% one to one support within mainstream education, either at Caerleon Endowed or another local school

. A part time placement within mainstream reception class, with the option of moving to full time if we feel he can cope adequately (given that even small routine changes can provoke quite significant egression in Harold?s abilities)

. Finally, although not ideal, we would feel compelled to withdraw Harold from LEA provision until 2008, and find him an appropriate alternative environment..

Unless Harold?s development alters dramatically within the next nine months (something unlikely in my opinion), it is not appropriate for him to enter full time, mainstream unsupported education in September 2007.

In an ideal situation we would have accessed a statement for Harold, however we are in a position where the lack of speech therapy means we have no paperwork bar a baseline assessment and a report we feel is inaccurate. SNAP tell us that the school cannot apply until Harold turns 4, at which point it will be 4 weeks before he is due to begin school, and the middle of the summer holidays.

We are disappointed to have to take such a firm stance, but we also hope you will appreciate we are actively doing the best we can for our son?s long term well being. We have deliberately given the LEA as many solutions as we can, in order to enable a dialogue on this matter to begin.

We look forwards to hearing from yourselves,.

Yours sincerely

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sauce · 18/02/2007 12:25

We look forward to hearing from you.

lulumama · 18/02/2007 12:32

significant egression

should that be regression

PeachyClair · 18/02/2007 12:37

Thank you

any comments about the, you know, reasonableness of the letter? I am quite worried, don't want to seem paranoid

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Tamum · 18/02/2007 12:39

I think it's a good letter (shocking, though). The thing that jumped out was this bit:

I acknowledge that a lack of access to a speech and language assessment, caused by the lack of a special needs Speech Therapist in Newport, is a primary contributory factor here: however Harold cannot be allowed to suffer because of this situation.

As the parents of Harold, we cannot agree with this. Harold?s main attribute is his happy disposition: setting him up to fail, and thereby risking this security and happiness, is not an acceptable suggestion.

It looks as though you don't agree with the bit about Harold not being allowed to suffer, which is clearly not the case. Good luck, I really hope it gets you somewhere.

Twiglett · 18/02/2007 12:39

Peachy I'm sorry I know you have a lot to communicate but IMHO its too long and you need to state what the point of the letter is in the first paragraph - there is, again IMHO, a lot of information (could some of it be separated into an attached action points plan?) to get through and it is difficult to get what the key points are

Busy people have a tendency to scan

Who is the recipient?

Tamum · 18/02/2007 12:41

No, I think it's sounds completely reasonable. The only thing I wonder is if it would be worth trying to condense it at all? It's very long, and maybe they might concentrate more if it was a bit briefer? There's a lot you need to get across though, I can see.

Greensleeves · 18/02/2007 12:41

It's a very good letter IMO. Forceful without being rude, courteous, well-constructed - it gives the impression that they are dealing with somebody intelligent and well-informed who is not just going to go away if ignored.

Good luck with it, it's like getting blood out of a stone, isn't it?

Twiglett · 18/02/2007 12:42

Maybe starting with

With reference to the report compiled by Educational Advisory teacher Sue Flynn I am writing to advise you that we have serious concerns over the accuracy of the base assesment and the action plans proposed and would very much apprecaite meeting with you within x days to discuss the following points:

Our primary concerns are:

Tamum · 18/02/2007 12:42

Ah, cross posted with Twiglett who is clearly thinking along the same lines

lulumama · 18/02/2007 12:42

sorry peachy, i know nothing about this sort of thing, but it is a thoughtful, not reactionary , well thought out and reasonable letter. hope you actually get somewhere.

PeachyClair · 18/02/2007 12:43

It is going to the head of the LEA- but we cannot find out the name. It is also copied to quite a few people (eg Ms Flynn / paeditrician/ partnership / assembly member) who are involved

I know its long but i cannot see how to break it down? Action Points would require them communicating with me- so far they won't acknowledge I exist!!

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Greensleeves · 18/02/2007 12:44

I don't think it's too long. People send in letters MUCH longer then this, accompanied by bundles of documents, notes and God knows what else. This letter doesn't ramble, it's to the point and well-expressed IMO.

Twiglett · 18/02/2007 12:50

Peachy --- if you want me to I can have a stab at re-writing it from a non-emotional and action pointy point of view

but I obviously don't want to step on your toes .. I do think it is fine, its just a little too much information IMO

I shall butt out unless you tell me otherwise

PeachyClair · 18/02/2007 12:51

Thanks- all opinions noted (And grammatical / typing alterations made LOL)

Have already forwarded it to assemble member, as his wife is someone I mnow (I am a party helper LOL)- we are desperate to something sorted here!

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PeachyClair · 18/02/2007 12:52

Twig, if you feel you can please e-mail it to me at [email protected].

it does need all the info in it though- you don't get a second chance with these thinsg, more's the pity.

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Aloha · 18/02/2007 13:03

WHo is the letter to Peachyclair? My first thought is that it is very, very long and confusing (sorry) and that you need to say what you want to happen right up at the top and cut out quite of lot of stuff.

What do you think of this sort of thing?:

Dear Sir, I am writing to express my concerns about the future eduction of my son XXX, who is due to start school in September and is currently at Xxx nursery.
Harold is 3.5 and has significant speech delay and many social and emotional difficulties, which have been noted by the nusery and recently led to his being seen by a Consultant Paediatrician and the Behaviour Advisory Teacher employed by the LEA.
Having seen the report we, his parents, believe this report signficantly misrepresents Harold's abilities.
Areas of concern to us in the report include:

  • You state he is not able to complete puzzles. Harold is actually very good at this.
  • He has no problems with fine motor skills and was able to do X or Y. I know this to be untrue.

Harold's childminder agrees this report misrepresents Harold and is writing a report herself for the Paediatrician, outlining Harold?s development from her own experience of knowing him for XX (length of time)

Also, a separate report from the school by Mrs XXX (attached)confirms and further underlines the disparity between Harold and his peer group.

Because of this, we believe that it is not, as proposed, remotely appropriate for him to enter full time, mainstream unsupported education in September 2007. In fact, Harold needs urgent intervention now to ensure he fulfills his potential, including appropriate speech and language therapy.

Regarding his education, we believe appropriate provision for Harold would be (in order of preference);

. A second year at the nursery, something we feel would greatly enhance Harold?s prospects of catching up on important skills, and learning interactive abilities. However, the Behaviour Advisory teacher told us this was against LEA policy

. A placement within a special needs nursery for a year (SUCH AS?)

. A placement within a special school suited to Harold?s communication, social and developmental delays (SUCH AS?)

. 100% one to one support within mainstream education, either at Caerleon Endowed or another local school (SUGGEST ONE?)

. A part time placement within mainstream reception class, with the option of moving to full time if we feel he can cope adequately (given that even small routine changes can provoke quite significant Regression in Harold?s abilities)

(PEACHY - Not sure I understand the next para - do you want to apply for a statement for him?)

In an ideal situation we would have accessed a statement for Harold, however we are in a position where the lack of speech therapy means we have no paperwork bar a baseline assessment and a report we feel is inaccurate. SNAP tell us that the school cannot apply until Harold turns 4, at which point it will be 4 weeks before he is due to begin school, and the middle of the summer holidays.

(delete next para - don't keep apologising!)

I hope that we can set up a meeting (WITH??)to discuss what can be done to ensure Harold has an education that will enable to him to fulfill his potential (WOULD BE USEFUL TO QUOTE EDUCATION ACT OR SIMILAR HERE - YOU NEED TO MAKE THEM FEEL THAT THEY HAVE TO HELP. WOULD IPSEA BE HELPFUL HERE?)

We look forwards to hearing from you,.

Yours sincerely

Aloha · 18/02/2007 13:04

I see I agree with Tamum & Twiglett - just took me a while what with my fiddling with the letter!

PeachyClair · 18/02/2007 13:05

Aloha IPSEA would be very helpful- just cannot get through!

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Twiglett · 18/02/2007 13:29

have emailed you peachy .. but I see Aloha has done it too .. think hers is better (marginally of course, can't possibly defer to a professional writer that far )

PeachyClair · 18/02/2007 14:46

Will read when it comes in Twig, thanks

Please forgive me if I do not say which version I use............ LOL! Don't want to start a war!

Do have to make sure the bit about Behavioural Advisory Teacher ( aka BAT LOL) didnt talk to us as parents, apparently (according to SNAP- the local version of IPSEA) that is very important if we want them to disregard the report

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Aloha · 18/02/2007 14:57

I also think you have to have more points where you disagree with the report - more concrete examples, which back up your assertion that he could not cope with mainstream school - ie The report says he can make his needs known, we say...

Re not talking to you, don't say you felt overwhelmed or anything like that - that isn't really their fault (though I do appreciate what you are saying) say

In addition we were not interviewed about our son, or asked our opinion by the BAT prior to the report being compiled, which is against the XXXX POLICY. We were also not adequately consulted after the report was shown to us. Indeed, though we were keen to discuss the failings of the report we have not even been given contact details for (XXXX WHOEVER IT SHOULD BE)

AttilaTheMeerkat · 18/02/2007 15:35

Peachy

If this letter is going to the head of the LEA concerned (Chief Education Officer) then I would endeavour to get his/her name from the council offices. You need this to go to a specific person.

I would agree with the content overall but its way too long and needs to be condensed.

The revised versions are very good and would use something like that for a final draft.

Instead of saying "we look forward to hearing from yourselves" you could perhaps write something along the lines of "we await your
reply within six weeks" (and mark that date on your calendar).

I would also copy this letter to your MP and seek him out at his surgery. You need to speak with this person, at least make him aware of the situation and get him on side. After all you are one of his constituents and you pay him to do a job!.

I have found that the best time to call IPSEA is around 11 - 11.30am or at around 2pm. Have in the past managed to get through at those times.

Good luck, I await their response with interest.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 18/02/2007 15:37

www.levenes.co.uk/ourServices.asp?page_key=33

These people are also specialists in Education Law. You may want to talk with them and see what they have to say.

cat64 · 18/02/2007 15:49

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PeachyClair · 18/02/2007 17:22

I have a list of ewho to send it to now- the assembly member (our MP doesn't do LEA related casework, but I know the Assembly member's family); the Teacher's HoD; the parenting aprtnership person; the SENCO; our PAediatrician (who aslo is concerned over schooling); the CM (who is coming to any meetings to back us up); Head of LEA (whose name I will get frm SNAP); NUrsery teacherChief Ed psych is MS Flynn's boss anyway- and of course the legendary Ms Flynn.

They have specifically said they don't want DS3 taken from LEA schooling, as they will only accept him back in to MS then at Yr1 level- and he clearly won't cope with that, which rather corners them, I also know the local school won't take him at Yr 1 with his SN.

Let's just hope we get somewhere. The CM has offered to have him for an extra year if necessary, and I think for ds3 that maintenace of relationship is important- he can access the Uni Nursery or playgroup if needd (and because I am a student and with his DOB my former LEA who pay my grants will fund LOL)

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