Teacher advertising himself rather graphically for new partner and kids found out.

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I work with a teacher who is repeatedly calling his professionality into question, regulalry has time off "sick" and talks in a highly innapropriate way to the kids.
His latest scandal was advertising himself while only wearing skimpy pants for a partner on a website and posting clips of him stimulating himself and snogging another man. I originally thought that although very stupid this is not a sacking offence but the kids have found out and there is even a suspicion that he told them about it. THis in my view makes his position in school intolerable and he should go, but he hasn't.
To put it bluntly should he stay or should he go?

Go. Bloody daft thing to do. Anyone who feels that they can put their career at risk in such a way has such poor judgement that they can't be trusted. Or secretly wants out anyway.

of course he should go..his private life is his own business to some extent, but sexual images of him that are accessed by pupils do make his position untenable IMO..and that is without all the time off and the inappropriate way he talks to the children.

He thinks he will be in senior management within five years, ( has been teaching for 1 year!) so as far as I know he is not looking for a way out although his behaviour would suggest otherwise!

Would he have to go if the kids don't know?

Colleagues have said thatthe moment somethig goes on the internet it is public and therefore whether kids know or not he should go.

icht, i dont think id want someone like that teaching my kids.

No I wouldn't!

But where has he gobe over the line.

Advertising on the interent for a partner? openend himself to ridicule and made his private life public.

Advertised as a gay man on the internet for a partner - for the same reasons as above.

Advertised himself in a pair of ridiculous pants, or is it the groping of himself or snogging the man or was it in allowing or letting the kids find out?

groping of himself or snogging the man or was it in allowing or letting the kids find out?

that bit is going over the line IMO

sounds young, stupid and naive if he thinks he will be in management in 5 years !

I'm not a teacher, I'm a parent. If a teacher at my kids school posted clips like that on the net and I found out I'd be asking the parent governors if the teacher could be sacked. It doesn't matter if the kids see them or not. If behaviour is inappropriate in public then its inappropriate on the net. Of course I may have misunderstood but stimulating yourself sounds like something for which you might get arrested.

gone over the line not gobbed over it!

Ia hve not seen it but apparantly he was not stimulating his penis but his chest - so Ia m not sure it is illegal but still highly innapropriate.

I imagine that this is a matter for the General Teaching Council. I think it is unreasonable to expect teachers to be morally perfect.

However showing or indirectly showing kids pictures of you naked is seriously wrong in a creepy way. Giving kids links to a website is effectively showing them.
It makes me wonder if he is some kind of paediophile. Possibly this is a matter for the police or social services.

I'm not a teacher, although I have worked in schools. I was under the impression that everyone who works in a school was responsible for child protection. If this teacher is talking/ acting inappropiately to kids then it is your responsibly to report him. Otherwise you are guilty of professional misconduct as well.

The enquiry after the death of Victoria Climbe made it clear that those who did nothing were partically to blame for the poor girl's death. I am sure that there is something about what to do in these situations in "Every Child Matters".

I know of a teacher in a school I used to work in who has recently done something similar, and although he wasn't sacked he did leave as life bacame intolerable.

I do think that when you becoma teacher you do agree to behave in a certain way jsut as do the police, politicians (although they tend to fail quite miserably)and perhaps even doctors.

I ahve to admit ata previous school acting in ways that were unprofessional, and although in no way did the kids know I ahve learnt from my mistakes.

gad! don't know whether it's illegal but shows very poor judgement.

Would not want him in charge of my kids in any setting, school or otherwise.

But he did not show the kids anything, and I think that is where the problem is although even I think kids are rather adept at unearthing things on the internet which is another reason why you ahve to be very careful.

"he talks in a highly inappropriate way to the kids"

without even knowing what it is he says this notion worries me.

If he were a politician none of us would be particularly surprised, but if he were I would still not want him in charge of my kids.

He is entitled to his privacy and his sex life but he's not keeping it private is he? I don't think it's relevant if he told the kids or not about the website. The internet is a public domain.

I think it could be argued that giving an internet link is effectively showing them.

If a teacher tells kids to log on to something more wholesome like BBC jam or SAM learning in their own time are the kids discovering the websites or are they being indirectly shown.

He has denied telling the kids and says they have just found it, that is why he is still at work although from what I can gather he is on his last warning.

But beacuse of his manner with the kids and the fact that apparantly it was not easy to find by simply typing in his name there are suspicions that he told them at least of the fact he had done it so they went away and looked for it.

If he's stroking his chest that's silly but not a sacking offense. It then comes down to what he has said to the children that is "inappropriate". If it's encouraging them to look up his pictures on the internet he's a fool and I'd rather he didn't teach my kids but I don't see how you could sack him. It woud merit a written warning. He should be told to get the pictures offline or be sacked.

Teachers are not standing by, we have complained and drawn attention to previous behaviour. But he seems to constantly be bad enough for a telling off or a warning but no sacakable.

As tatt said because it is his chest he is stroking, however provocatively and he denies telling the kids he is on a warning, but this time a final one.

I do think he should go though as TSAP says we ahve a moral responsibility and we are on show and representing the education system and our school. This is before I even get on to whether someone with that little sense of judgement should be teaching.

I think if he'd put a sober picture of himself in a suit on a web site to find a wife etc should not be an issue. But anything more is foolish in his position. Stupid to give his real name too. There may be a code of conduct he has breached too. A lady was sacked because on a flight she, a middle aged business woman, got drunk on a business trip and ended up doing stuff to the man next to her on the flight, a stranger. It was said even though she wasn't in the office she was bringing the company into disrepute. Some post office workers who are football hooligans off duty i think were sacked on a similar basis. In other words sometimes your out of work life can lead to you losing your job. So you might expect a teacher in a religious school to loise their job if they hae a part time job as a stripper but not if their other job was serving in Tesco - depends on the job and image

Agree with Xenia.

my sons year 5 teacher frequently discusses her "love Life" with the class. From what my son says she doesnt go into details but the kids know all about her BF and if they are having a disagreement etc.

My son says he just gets on with something when she "starts going on about xxxx" !!

I'm not overly inpressed with her attitude but after reading this thread I am grateful she isnt advertising herself on the internet!LOL