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Terrible choice of state schools, considering private - WWYD?

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phoenixrose314 · 29/06/2015 10:15

I am a teacher, and I work at a state school that is 2 form entry, has a "Good" OFSTED rating, and our Early Years provision (where I work) is Outstanding. We are the ONLY Good school in the area (a very deprived area), and we got it mostly because of our provision for children with severe emotional or behavioural difficulties.

I had always planned to have my DS come to my school, of course the main reason is because it's practical and would be easy to have him come with me into school and just have a child-minder for after school hours, but also because the teachers there are on the whole very dedicated and we get good results overall. However, more recently I have noticed the increasing bad behaviour of some of the pupils further up the school, and how disruptive it is to the lives and education of the rest of the class. Teachers and/or TAs are often chasing students around the school, coaxing them back into classrooms and micromanaging such disruptive behaviour that I feel the education and enjoyment of the many are getting overlooked. This is happening daily, all the upper school teachers are so stressed and are spending all their energy on these "difficult" children. I don't want my son to have a half-hearted education because so much of the good work that teachers do is spent on the most challenging pupils.

I have worked out that what we are already paying monthly in day nursery fees is only £100 short of what it would cost to send him to an independent school not far from where I work. Small class sizes (they guarantee less than twenty, average of 12 in a class), great resources, but obviously we would be less well off which means no holidays 'til I get promoted (or my DH does), less trips out, etc.

WWYD? Has anyone made the switch from state to independent, or vice versa? What were your opinions on either?

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crazycrofter · 29/06/2015 12:24

I would go private for juniors if need be. We're in a similar situation, in a deprived area. Our kids' school was Ofsted 'good' when they joined in 2010, but it's been in special measures for 18 months now. My daughter is just leaving year 6 and she's been ok, although to be honest I've not been too happy with the standard of education in years 5 and 6. She's very robust though and can get on with all types. We had to pull my son (year 4) out at half term and we're home educating him. He's had bullying issues on and off throughout years 3 and 4 - he stands out as being a bit different (partly family background and partly personality) and he's been a target. This year particularly he's also got really fed up of the constant disruption, plus the different supply teachers each day as his teacher has been off with stress. Trips have been cancelled because of the bad behaviour of the class and it's all been a bit depressing. Infants was fine; it's definitely juniors when the behaviour issues really kick in.

Woooooohoooooo · 29/06/2015 12:46

I think you can provide extra support at home while he's in infants with you.

JaWellNoFine · 29/06/2015 13:07

My ds goes to a prep. It is lovely but a word of warning. 12 is a tiny class. You could end up with 10 boys and two girls in the class. And some kids just don't get on. So you need a decent ratio. I would ask the school if this has caused issues.

Also, why are they running at such low capacity? Most schools would trying to make a profit so would have as many children as they could. That would be a red flag for me. You don't want then closing down in the next 7 years.

PettsWoodParadise · 29/06/2015 13:32

DD is at a selective private independent, we moved her in Y3, but a bit late so we missed the usual application dates etc so she was one of eight chasing a single place. We have never regretted the decision. Note that there are some mediocre independents out there too with their own issues. As a previous poster has pointed out the fact the school is undersubscribed would make me want to be more thorough in understanding why. Independents also rarely prepare you for the 11+, there are some but those with a senior school attached will expect the children to stay on.

iseenodust · 30/06/2015 11:20

Agree with 3little, get a job in the private school & enjoy the staff discount.

Duckdeamon · 30/06/2015 14:23

You should get (companies house or charities commission) and thoroughly look at the private schools accounts.

Agree with PPs that class size of 12 is too small. And that you need a plan B if he doesn't get into the grammar school.

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