Key stage 2 results

[Bungle01]

Hi, I've lost my child's key stage 2 results from 2012, he's now half way through year 9 and there's a problem with his expected grade at end key stage 3. I'd like to prove a point with the school but need his key stage 2 results to do this ( can't find them any where although have found every other year!). Does any one know if they are recorded anywhere.

First World Problem.
The school has loads of test results on how he's done in the Secondary system.
What weirdness went on at his primary school is irrelevant now.

Don't the secondaries ignore KS2 tests and retest the pupils when they enter the school? Can't you refer to those results? The secondary will surely take note of those but possibly not the primary KS2 results anyway

Does it really matter what his expected grade is? He gets what he gets and it all becomes history surely?

grades are predicted by a formula, there is no leeway.

If you imagine the school will change his expected results with reference to how well or badly he did in primary school, you're mistaken.
In all probability they weren't even taken into account when he entered Year 7 in the first place, most schools don't.
His efforts to date will speak for themselves; there is no "point" to be proven.

They don't have a crystal ball anyway; he can do much better or much worse than predicted, it's in his own hands.

Sorry I can't answer your present question.

However, when my DD started secondary, her first mentoring profile (others may call it something different but a bit like a report) showed what her current level was assessed at, and what she should aim for at the end of Year 7 and KS3. Her first level in Year 7 was in accordance with what she achieved at the end of KS2, ie she got Level 5 in all subjects and was given levels of 5.25, 5.5 and 5.75. Did the school issue you with anything like this and have this issued updates? If they did, this may help you see where things have gone adrift.

Could you ask the primary school to give you a copy from their records? maybe make it a FOI request.

var123
personal data is exempt from FOI

That's funny because HMRC told me that's how I would get a copy of the letters they claimed to have sent me asking me to do tax returns.

Ah, requesting information about yourself is different from requesting it about anybody else

And HMRC are incorrect.
Nice fat written formal complaint cc'd to your MP is the way to deal with that sort of silliness.

Data protection is the act under which you access personal data, not FoI.
OP - I really wouldn't bother. School knows how he's doing. It's what he's doing now that counts not three years ago.

Is the OP trying to convince the school that he should be making at least 2 levels of progress?

the op never came back ....

Then if its not derailing can I just say that I was very annoyed with HMRC because they fined me for 5 years of non-returns when I lived abroad even though they hadn't sent me any letters telling me they wanted tax returns. It was about £1000.

The man on the phone claimed they wrote the letters and wrote my name and country on them and that was enough. (they did not know my address).

var
did you pay : if so "formal complaint" and request the fines back under the "disproportionate" section of HMRCs own manual
if not - same thing actually

if they cannot prove that they used a valid address - and the onus is on them, they are screwed
took them for 2k of penalties for mis spelling a clients address

I did pay and I dropped it. I figured that my versus the system meant i was on a hiding to nothing. I saw a copy of one letter and this is how they addressed it:-

Mrs X X XXX

Incredibly, none of the letters were delivered.

ooh, VAR if it was less than 23 months ago, stitch the beggars. THey deserve it.

It was 2010 unfortunately.

still worth a shitty letter - within 6 years

HMRC go for those they think will be easy targets... When they aren't even entitled to the money they are demanding, it's unforgiveable.

Can I drag this thread back onto something like the original rails, and ask about my y7 dd who was home educated until secondary school. I've read several opinions along the lines of

Don't the secondaries ignore KS2 tests and retest the pupils when they enter the school? Can't you refer to those results? The secondary will surely take note of those but possibly not the primary KS2 results anyway

grades are predicted by a formula, there is no leeway

If you imagine the school will change his expected results with reference to how well or badly he did in primary school, you're mistaken.
In all probability they weren't even taken into account when he entered Year 7 in the first place, most schools don't.

and don't really know what to think. Dd says her classmates seem to have target levels on their books (they use name labels that have space for target levels), but she doesn't. (She was quite excited to get one for DT!) There was a gap for ks3 target on her report, but nothing in it.

They did CATs in the autumn, and as far as I know are set for maths and English from the start of y7. (She was immediately moved to top set maths by a teacher who knows her older sister, lol, and I think she's in bottom set English.)

She finds it a bit odd that she hasn't got target levels and everyone else does. We have parents evening in April. I'm just wondering whether to investigate at all before then - really cannot decide whether it's an issue or not!

From previous experience I know that if I leave it until parents evening, the individual teachers won't know anything much about it, so I'd quite like to have talked to someone else first ... but then I think levels may be irrelevant and she should just do her best anyway! Thoughts? Experiences?

I don't think my dd's secondry school take much notice of the ks2 results after the first term in yr7. The school sets them and gives targets based on it's own tests rather ks2 results.

The official progress measures that all schools are assessed on are set only on KS2 results. The school will have a target for each child that they need to achieve if they are going to be included in the school's progress measures as having made expected progress between ks2 and 3.

Some schools give the official target, other will give pupils a different target based on their own testing and CATs. I'm assuming these will almost always be the same or higher. It would be a brave school that sets a lower target based on their own testing.