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Princess Helena OR Queenswood

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sunsup · 16/10/2006 11:38

I am thinking of looking at each of these schools for DD, does anyone out there have any experience of these schools or things I should look out for. DD is of average intelligence, a basic allrounder really. Any help please?

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sunsup · 16/10/2006 12:32

bump please???

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frogs · 16/10/2006 12:52

You might find this thread useful, or this one , which specifically mentions Queenswood.

alibubbles · 16/10/2006 13:40

Queenswood is more academic than PHC, DD's friend went there as she didn't get in anywhere else.

sunsup · 16/10/2006 14:56

Alibubbles, bit confused, did yours friends daughter go to PHC or Queenswood? Are they happy with the school? If Queenswood is too academic I don't think it would suit my DD.

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sunsup · 16/10/2006 15:06

Thanks frogs, I read the mentioned threads, but would still be very interested to hear from anyone who has or knows of children attending these two schools.

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Greensleeves · 16/10/2006 15:13

I used to work at Queenswood. Academically it is superlative. Its facilities, grounds and extra-curricular activities are fabulous.

However, in my experience it is excessively conformist, pastoral care is minimal and the girls are placed under extreme pressure to achieve, sometimes at the cost of their emotional wellbeing. I found the atmosphere in the school cold, competitive and unpleasant.

This is just my view. I hope you get plenty of others so that you can make an informed decision.

sunsup · 16/10/2006 15:23

Thankyou Greensleeves, its good to hear comments from someone on the 'inside' IYKWIM. DD is quite shy and will always take a back seat. I don't think I would want her to have TOO much pressure on her, just enough to keep her motivated IYSWIM.

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alibubbles · 16/10/2006 17:09

sunsup, - actually, she had friends at both. One friend left Dame Alice Owen's when DD did at the end of year 8, and she ended up being head girl of Queenswood, she loved it, said it was fantastic and loved boarding too.

The other friend who went to PHC loved it too, she wasn't a very bright girl, but ended up doing what she wanted to and that was getting into Drama school. PHC used to do a lot of drama with my son's school too in St Albans. She also loved the school too..

Two different schools, two very different girls, both very happy.

alibubbles · 16/10/2006 17:10

sunsup, - actually, she had friends at both. One friend left Dame Alice Owen's when DD did at the end of year 8, and she ended up being head girl of Queenswood, she loved it, said it was fantastic and loved boarding too.

The other friend who went to PHC loved it too, she wasn't a very bright girl, but ended up doing what she wanted to and that was getting into Drama school. PHC used to do a lot of drama with my son's school too in St Albans. She also loved the school too..

Two different schools, two very different girls, both very happy.

frogs · 16/10/2006 17:15

alibubbles, can I have an insider view on Alice Owens? Might be a possibility for ds, but have heard some mixed things about it. Why did your dd leave early, if you don't mind my asking?

sunsup · 16/10/2006 18:06

Alibubbles, thank you so much. My daughter would certainly do well on the drama side but DH wants a more academic school. We will see. Thank you

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sylvm · 16/10/2006 20:05

What I have heard on Owens - DD has very good friend there - I also know a LSA there. Very good results, work very hard, new head - seems very on the ball. SEN sounds better than I had been led to believe previously. However DDs friend is a bright girl who has never had any problems. We turned a place down for DD there - I just had a feeling that perhaps they wouldn't be quite supportive enough for her - she has a lot of health issues. However, that is a personal view and Owens has a very good reputation in the local area and most people would give anything to get there child in there.

alibubbles · 17/10/2006 09:07

I agree with what sylvm says about Owens. DD was ill, from on going allergy problems, chronic pain, a bit like ME) our personal experience was there is NO pastoral support. and it was up to me to arrange when to take her in, arrange for work to be collected etc. I wrote many times asking for support, the response was she's very bright she'll catch up. The attitude is very much, you are here because you are bright, if you don't get it first time round - tough!

DD became depressed about missing school and struggled to go in, but I would have to fetch her an hour later as she had fallen asleep or had fainted with weakness.

She'd met up for a dinner with a group of girls from the High school and one day a couple of weeks lsater she said, I want to move school, I know where I should be. Luckily SAHS had a place becoming available. The head said we took her at 7 and we took her at 11, you turned us down twice, this is your last chance!

DD joined and never looked back. She is glad she went to Owens, as she saw another side of life that has given her a balanced view of people and life, but she's so happy she moved (her words)

The worse thing I did was leave DS there for another year, he had never been particularly happy there, mild bullying, older boys threatening and taking lunch money. He would also get 80% and be bottom of the class. the teachers also said ask your sister to help you, she's done this before!

He spent one whole term outside a classroom for one subject as he refused to apologise to a teacher for stating his own opinion on something he strongly believed in, which was the opposite views of the teachers.

I made him wait until the end of year 8, but he also was much happier at a single sex school.

I met some parents who thought I was mad to move DD from Owens and pay for SAHS, but different schools suit different children.

Owens is truly an excellent school, I was a governor there for 2 years, so got to know how it worked. It is very much a North London school, there are some very streetwise children there, who can be quite ruthless to fellow pupils.

We have no regrets, only that education ended up costing a small fortune as we had not planned for fees, so they had to come out of earned income, so we had to find nearly £2000 a month for the next 6 years!

sylvm · 17/10/2006 15:15

where did your son go when he left Owens Alibubbles?

alibubbles · 17/10/2006 15:26

St Columba's College

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