Wandsworth Test results/ Graveney

[petangyang]

Has anyone had their DC's results yet? It seems that the scores are much lower this year? Has anybody any idea what the final cut off was for Graveney for second or third round offers last year?

I think it's more to do with the fact that they have 2000+ applicants many of whom are out of catchment so they have to have some way of whittling down the numbers. However they realise that the test is just a snapshot and tells you nothing about a child's capacity to cope with the pace set in extension, their creativity, work ethic etc all of which would be known by the current school

Hi I am hoping to get my dd into graveney we live 900m away but I know catchment can vary depending how many places are already filled by siblings etc (eg 2012 furthest away child who got in on distance was 900m, 2013 500m!)

My question is how many places are available for those getting top scores in the Wandsworth test and is the number of those places fixed?

Also how many places are typically left for children to get in on proximity to the school once siblings have been given places? Just a ball park would help!

Thanks

The reason the distance looks so different in those two years is that they changed the way they measured it. They went from measuring walking routes on pavements to a simple straight line on the map system. So depending on how you have measured your distance it may not mean you are in with a chance.

It is always 63 or 65 places (can't remember which) for the test. I think they publish the breakdown of sibling places in the Wandsworth admissions booklet which you can see on the Wandsworth website.

Thanks. We live 900m away in a straight line

Yes 900 m straight line sounds too far on current demand, unfortunately. Blame the renters!

If she doesn't get in we'll have to go private which means I won't be able to have another baby without considerable hit to finances. We are in a black hole of catchments!
Or we move to the suburbs

Wish I had thought of this before we bought our house (ironically to be closer walk to dd's primary school...)

MadameLebean- rather than move to the suburbs, why not move a bit closer?

Or sideways across London into the catchment of an alternative good school?

Chestnut Grove, Dunraven, Harris Crystal Palace, Charter, Kingsdale, for example.

Charter and Dunraven's results equal Graveney's if you remove the impact of the two selective classes, and there is a cluster of excellent primaries in the Dunraven catchment, too.

Dunraven's results equal Graveneys Seriously? Since when?

GoldenBeagle said "if you remove the impact of the two selective classes". I don't have figures, but can believe that. So if you are not of "superselective" ability you will do better at Dunraven.

From the DOE Performance Tables:

Demography / intake:

Graveney: Low attainers 9%
Middle Attainers 38%
High Attainers 53% (and 13.9 FSM)

Dunraven: Low attainers: 13%
Middle Attainers: 54%
High Attainers: 26% (and 24% FSM)

So, in a school with more than twice as high a % of high attainers at Graveney (and a big discrepancy in FSM), these are the overall average comparative GCSE A-C inc Eng&Maths for the school as a whole

Graveney: 2011: 77%
2012: 79%
2013: 75%

Dunraven: 2011: 73%
2012: 72%
2013: 75%

Comparing like for like (i.e attainer group against attainer group) the % getting 5GCSE inc maths and Eng:

Graveney - middle attainers: 63%
high attainers: 96%

Dunrave-: middle attainers: 76%
high attainers: 98%

Average score per qualification:

Graveney- High Attainers:A-
Middle Attainers: C+

Dunraven -High Attainers: B+
Middle Attainers: C+

So, on this comparator Graveney gets a better score for it's high attainers - but those high attainers represent a super-selective intake. It gets the same score for middle attainers, where you would expect the groups to be more comparable.

So, yes, I would say that on all these figures, if you remove the impact of the super-selective stream, Dunraven's results are equal to Graveney's. Charter too (because they have better results than Dunraven, I think, but a lower FSM %)- but I haven't got time to demonstrate.

Why should this be surprising?

JustAnother - you might do better or as well even if you are of super-selective ability!

Anyone know what the cut-off is at the moment for Graveney? I know there will be letters coming out, but we have not been offered the school and I do not know if I should give up hope !

Hi

As my DD only scored 218 we didn't place as first choice. We received our first choice thou.

What is the cut ff score this year?

Roz

I called Wandsworth this morning and they confirmed 253 was the cut off for offers yesterday. My child got 244 & is 48th on the waiting list as of today so very disappointed!

Ah so higher than last year which was 250 on offer day - disappointing as the OP hinted it at being lower this year (although GraveneyLady said otherwise earlier up). No hope with our DS's score....

Thought I'd call anyway: and DS is with a score of 240, 74th in Waiting List.....

So did any of the Graveney hopefuls get their place? (fingers crossed!)

AliceLostInWonderland - have you recovered from the shock, yet ?

Not us. But 63 hopefuls did a get a place!