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Guildford High Junior v St Catherine's Prep (Bramley) - recent experiences?

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Auroborea · 24/11/2013 11:08

DD has an offer from both for reception entry, and I am agonizing over the choice (I know we are very fortunate to have it). We have to make the decision in the next few days. We love both schools from what we have seen, academically there isn't much between them from what I can tell, St Catherine's has the edge in terms of space and facilities but Guildford High much more convenient for us location-wise (DS at Lanesborough). I've looked through every past thread that I could find - very helpful, but many seem to be about the senior schools or not that recent. I am really interested in recent experiences of the junior/prep bits. In particular, if you have a daughter there, is she happy (and are you)? DD is reasonably confident and very eager academically, she is showing some signs of being both sporty and arty/creative (although so difficult to tell at this age what their interests are going to be). She says she wants to go to Guildford High (but then she is only four). Any experiences gratefully received.

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Thinkpad123 · 23/11/2016 21:45

We have been offered a place at St Catherine's and GHS in the junior school (for Autumn 2017) and would really like to speak/learn from parents who have made this 'difficult' decision earlier - as its not an easy one. Any help / guidance would be greatly appreciated. We are leaning towards GHS as we have limited information on St Cat's as compared to GHS. It would be very helpful to get a view from parents who have made a choice for St Cat's recently over GHS and why?

user1479930605 · 23/11/2016 22:16

Hi confusedbyschools - have you made your decision yet? My daughter is starting reception 2017 and has an offer at st. Cats too.

Confusedbyschools · 23/11/2016 22:58

No not yet. I feel totally torn. I just want to make sure she will be happy as well as challenged! I am concerned about the rumours. What are you doing?

Waiting16 · 24/11/2016 00:29

Sounds like we all have the same worries. Hopefully as parents if we all want the same thing this will pass on to the kids and the feeling of the class.

Confusedbyschools · 24/11/2016 05:43

Good point. I think we will go with ghs, but will be sad to turn st cats down

user1479930605 · 24/11/2016 06:36

My preschool advised that St Cats would be the best out of all three (Tormead, ghs, st cats). It being both an academic school and better on nurturing the children / pastoral care. A lot of parents at my son's school have siblings at all three - I hear positive about all three but also quite a lot of negativity / unhappiness about GHS being an exam factory etc. I think it all depends on your daughter, my guess is if she is bright and confident then she will excel and cope well at GHS. Another factor is where you live, we are in walking distance from Tormead / GHS.-

Waiting16 · 24/11/2016 19:37

That definitely comes into it as well!

Waiting16 · 24/11/2016 19:38

Have you gone for st cats then? Really we are amazingly lucky to have such great schools in the area that it's even a choice.

GuildfordSchoolMum · 24/11/2016 20:27

Being a mum that has had children at both schools I am more than happy to contribute to the thread. GHS junior school has changed dramatically over the last 4 or 5 years and has changed its admission policy to be mainly IQ based; this came directly from the previous head whom I got on very well with. We genuinely believed that GHS was the best of the best. Our intention was always GHS for the junior school and elsewhere for the senior; we made this known to the school in the early years.

If your daughter is top 1% and will be able to breeze through school academically and is extremely strong emotionally then GHS could be the school for your child. Every school is competitive however in the GHS environment this can be amplified due to the schools expectations. There were serious failings with a particular member of staff which wasn’t addressed quickly enough and this cemented our decision to move prior to the senior school.

Something else that I should mention, no matter what you hear, GHS is not a pass through school, and your daughter will not automatically be accepted into the senior school. This is a common misconception and the school really should publicly address it.

When we moved our eldest to St Catherine’s, there was an incredible change in both her and her results; I have to admit to feeling a huge amount of guilt, we genuinely didn’t know what was out there. As mentioned previously we believed GHS was a normal school environment, we were completely wrong and only when you step outside do you see the differences. I now have two girls at St Catherine’s one in the senior school and one in the prep, the atmosphere is completely different and we definitely made the right choice.

Some parents travel a great distance so their girls can go to St Cats and as the senior school has the option of boarding there is a real international family atmosphere. Although our eldest doesn’t board she is constantly asking if she can, this in itself says an incredible amount about the school.

A few other things that stand out for us:-. Bag drop the day before your daughter goes back after the holidays so no need to struggle with all of her kit on the day. The bag drop day is also a great way for your daughter entering PP1 to get familiar with her surroundings, find out where her peg is, and meet the teacher creating a very relaxed first day of school. How many school heads would go out and buy everyone in that year a copy of the paper when they are featured in it? Not having to queue for 15 minutes along London road trying to turn into GHS at pickup! There are 3 car parks surrounding St Cats and nothing around GHS, which is something I certainly do not miss. GHS’s bus shelter system made a dramatic improvement however fails completely when the girls are not outside on time.

For those worried about the school run between St Catherine’s and Lansborough for example, cutting across Chinthurst Lane then Warricks Bench means the journey is about 15 minutes, you miss the traffic on the 281 and Guildford town centre.

I think the problem we and a lot of parents had / have, especially if its your eldest, is seeing things for what they actually are. My personal opinion, if you are looking at a very similar education to GHS, with superior facilities and grounds with exceptional pastoral care then the obvious choice is St Cats.

user1479930605 · 24/11/2016 20:49

Thanks Guildfordmum, that is an extremely useful summary. I am certainly angling towards st cats as only hear positive things about it. Spoke to a number of mum's at pick up today and they absolutely rave about it. Certainly don't hear the same about GHS and in fact one of the mum's is switching her daughter to st.cats next term....

Welwyn15 · 25/11/2016 10:07

Having been a parent at both schools for 2 years simultaneously we learnt that the two schools offer an excellent education for girls but do so in very different ways.
We much preferred the approach at St Cats of the teaching, the staff & the whole atmosphere within the school which just feels happy. This was not our experience of GHS. I never felt as welcome as a parent more of " you are lucky we chose your daughter to be here" rather than " we chose you as a school to educate our daughter."
We moved our eldest daughter to St Cats in Yr 4, she was thriving at GHS but knew no different, after a few weeks she said " I love it here Mummy it's great fun!"
We continue to be thrilled with the school & our girls are thriving.
We also live very close to GHS, whilst convenience is an easy option it's not always the right one.
Good luck with your decision.

AGHSmum · 26/11/2016 21:11

I have two daughters at GHS, one still in juniors and one now in the senior school. I do want to add another perspective to some of Guildford mum's comments. GHS very definitely is a through school - the girls do not sit the entrance tests for the senior school and very, very few are not offered places. It is also not a school for only the top 1%; more like the top 10%, which your DD is likely to be if she was offered a place. It is not the only junior school of which I have experience, and my girls have been very happy there. While for juniors there are probably other equally good options depending on your DD, the senior school is fantastic and my elder DD is very happy and thriving there.

Confusedbyschools · 27/11/2016 07:29

That's good to know. Thanks very much for sharing that. There's an awful lot of negative press about GHS so it's good to have a balanced view!

GreenTreeGreenPea · 28/11/2016 11:30

Sharing a GHS experience...
As poster above said, don't get caught up in the slagging one or other school off. I hear lots of positives and negatives about both schools. Some think GHS is too academic/pushy, others think St Cat's is too jolly hockey sticks. In reality, both schools are going to give an amazing opportunity to your DD and hardly any pupils leave - you hear of the odd disgruntled parent, but that is true of all schools.

GHS was actually incredibly laid back in our experience. It is full of hard working, fun-loving, happy girls who are interested in the world and want to do well. The school has a very high standard of pastoral care in recognition that bright teenage girls need nurturing and reassuring all the time. GHS was detention-free, it very much took the attitude that if a girl is struggling they need a caring hand and help getting organised, not punished. They had the attitude of have a go and your best is fine - everyone has their own unique talents..you don't have to love lacrosse, be a maths genius or join every music club if it isn't your thing. They try to make sure there is something for everyone.

St Cats is more everyone has a go and forced house activities (lacrosse, singing etc for all). It has a slightly more old-fashioned head. Not necessarily a pro or con... Really just a matter of preference.

The big and perhaps only difference in reality (knowing GHS and St cats girls who are all lovely) is that GHS is a town day school and St Cats is a country setting and has boarding which obviously changes the nature of the school slightly.

PennyBrite · 28/11/2016 12:34

GTGP I couldn't agree more! Parents of girls have such a panoply of amazing schools from which to choose - there really is something for everyone. I understand it's not so fortunate for boys so as the mother of 2 girls I have been happy feeling I couldn't go far wrong living in this vicinity.

GTGP's final point was very valid too - the boarding element really makes a tangible difference. As GSM mentioned, it adds a more international aspect, plus as it is a home for lots of girls, the school never has that 'closed for business' feeling which day schools may have.

The best thing is to go and visit the schools rather than relying on rumours and hearsay - we all know how the opinion polls ended up in 2016!
St Catherine's has just had an inspection by the way but not published as far as I know but should be imminent.

Confusedbyschools · 28/11/2016 12:41

That's really helpful and reassuring! Thank you!

Thinkpad123 · 02/12/2016 00:26

Thanks for your messages. We have made our decision to go ahead with GHS, although shattered to turn down St Cats. We really hope that we have made the right decision....fingers crossed!!

Waiting16 · 03/12/2016 00:21

We also have decided to go for ghs so fingers crossed here too!

Confusedbyschools · 03/12/2016 07:51

Same!

SurreyGandT · 06/12/2016 15:25

We found it so difficult making this decision; I do not envy any of you! My DD moved up to the senior school at GHS this year and for the most part we were very happy with the junior school. You will always see biased opinion on here on both sides of the fence however nothing is ever plain sailing. The senior school is very different and we are considering moving DD next year.

I have chuckled through a few of the comments on here but the new additions to GHS parents will see why down the line and there is no need to go into them.

GHS is a tough school to get into and your DD’s have done extremely well.

minunapoli · 05/02/2017 21:20

help please!!!!!!!
my DD has been accepted at st cathrine school, she also has a place at box hill and king edwards, she is currently in year 8 and we need to accept one of the offer..... although we're thrilled that she got in all of the 3 school we're now are spoilt for choice..
my DD fairly academic, very sporty and arty.
just want the best for her, any advice please .
thanks in advance

Flyingmum23 · 27/02/2018 21:59

No brainer. St Cats is the best by miles.

Bekabeech · 01/03/2018 11:19

Zombie thread - there are much newer ones.

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