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Very tricky maths problem for 10 year old?

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robinia · 11/07/2006 22:51

Dd, along with selected others of her class, has been given a maths problem which I can't work out and nor can dh:

Using numbers 2, 4, 6 and 8 and "divided by" and "equals", make every number from 1 to 32.
eg. 1 = 8 divided by 8; Can't use plus, minus or multiply. Can use each of the numbers as many times as necessary.

We can only get about 1/4 of the answers. Can anybody enlighten us and isn't this a bit tough for a 10year old or is this the way they teach maths these days?

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Celia2 · 11/07/2006 23:03

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robinia · 11/07/2006 23:07

I asked dd to check with her teacher and apparently they are all possible. Dh and I have spent over an hour working on it with her

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Katymac · 11/07/2006 23:09

What haven't you got?

NotQuiteCockney · 11/07/2006 23:11

Can you use brackets?

NotQuiteCockney · 11/07/2006 23:12

Hmm, still not sure, even with brackets, how you'd get a prime other than 2. How would you get 7?

robinia · 11/07/2006 23:17

You can use brackets. We've got 1,2,3,4,6,8,9,12,16,18,24,32.

Yes, it's the primes we're bothered about. Once we've got them the others should be easy (she says nonchalantly!!)

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LeahE · 11/07/2006 23:23

Can you combine them as digits?

E.g. 42/6 = 7 ?

robinia · 11/07/2006 23:24

No (sorry!).

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singersgirl · 11/07/2006 23:24

But can't you have 42 divided by 6 equals 7, for example? Or is making double or triple digits not allowed?

NotQuiteCockney · 11/07/2006 23:30

You've got to be able to combine digits, surely. Or use some other operator. Otherwise, I can't see how to get it.

robinia · 11/07/2006 23:32

Nor can we
Dd is adamant that she has the instructions correct. The teacher said that if they got stuck they could use other operators but that it was possible with just division.
Will be sending her into school tomorrow with incomplete homework (the shame ).

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Katymac · 11/07/2006 23:33

Will you tell us the answers when you know??

Please - I have been trying

NotQuiteCockney · 11/07/2006 23:36

I'm really really sure there's an error here somewhere. Either they can combine digits, or they can use more operators. (Maybe ^?)

robinia · 11/07/2006 23:37

But of course. And dd will be in big trouble if her instructions are incorrect

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titchy · 12/07/2006 13:14

7 is 6 divided by 2, which is 3, then plus 4.

what others can't you get?

NotQuiteCockney · 12/07/2006 13:16

Um, you're not allowed to use plus, minus or multiply. Just divide. See the original post.

katierocket · 12/07/2006 13:16

they can't use plus though

katierocket · 12/07/2006 13:17

That's really hard. I'm sure it's not possible. Some clever mumsnetter will be along in a minute to tell us how to do it.

NotQuiteCockney · 12/07/2006 13:19

I'm pretty sure it's not possible. Possible with combining digits.

ja9 · 12/07/2006 13:25

robinia, if you can't combine digits, how did you get your answers above 4?

NotQuiteCockney · 12/07/2006 13:27

32 = 4/(1/8)

For example.

NotQuiteCockney · 12/07/2006 13:27

It's the primes that are problematic. With () (which robinia said were allowed), you can get the non-prime numbers.

ja9 · 12/07/2006 13:32

oooh, i get the brackets now....

can't wait to see solution. when do we get it?

robinia · 12/07/2006 14:52

If we're lucky - tonight - dd has maths club after school. Otherwise there will be a very penitent dd for not listening to instructions properly and wasting mumsnetters' precious time ....

We haven't got all the non-prime numbers yet. eg.10, 14, 20, if you feel like a crack at those nqc????

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robinia · 12/07/2006 21:48

Wwwaaaaaaahhhh! No answer tonight - the homework has been handed in without discussion. However, discussion with a friend and her daughter backs up dd's assertion that the rules are as stated. Back to the drawing board ....!

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