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Gower school islington

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BeenieBaby · 25/08/2013 09:48

Anyone have any experience of this school? We're keen on a Montessori education, but this school seems to have a bad rep, we weren't sure why... Anyone know firsthand what it's like?

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Della12345 · 04/11/2022 17:55

This thread started over 9 years ago. Have things improved?

Islingtonsass · 23/11/2022 19:45

Well, still zero parental influence / consultation which leads to anguish and silly decisions. Ms Gowers is still a cause of upset - amongst parents and kids - with some parents and children describing completely inappropriate and upsetting behaviour from her: in the classroom and outside it. Really all very tiring and dispiriting. Anyone fancy setting up an alternative? You could recruit 75% of existing parents easily!

Islingtonsass · 23/11/2022 20:05

I’d like to add a very important addendum to the above. The teachers are great: caring, skilled and incredibly child focused. I am in awe of all of them - and would like to thank them wholeheartedly. Whatever Ms Gower’s ‘even better ifs’ she recruits well.

Bathtimebubble · 22/09/2023 11:41

Interested to know how things are going at The Gower School

Caledonian2024 · 07/11/2024 12:44

The size of this thread and the number of comments on Mumsnet about this small school is quite staggering. I think this really reflects the way it is run in a style which grates with many parents, including myself. And while lots that is done by the school is done well, they definitely get some key areas wrong in my view. Hence this post.

Joining as a parent of a child at the Gower for me the first odd thing I experienced was the “Empowered Parenting” course that we were told we had to attend (and pay for). 15 hours of simple tips and advice over 5 weeks, I think most of us found it all pretty familiar and tiresome. But the main problem for me was the way we were told we were expected to attend, making me feel as though the school was taking a position of superior knowledge not just on educating our offspring, but of parenting them too. This is a line that schools shouldn't cross in my view. Forever afterwards the risk is that if your child has any issues or transgressions at school, it can feel like the school is judging you and your family. An unpleasant dynamic.
Another problem became apparent to me after joining the school - the dysfunctional power imbalance between parents and leadership. I felt as if parents could not be fully honest with school leaders - from little things like the verbose weekly newsletters, to more serious concerns like the level of homework, it felt as though our future at the school could be at risk if we didn’t follow every dictate.
People will say if you don't like a private school you don't have to send your kids there, but by the time you come to understand these subtleties it’s too late, your kids are settled in. As a result plenty of parents persist at the Gower, wary of getting on the wrong side of the Head, and just grumbling to each other, knowing full well that they have little choice if they want to keep their kid settled, or gain a place for a sibling. It feels like a very dysfunctional relationship caused by the concentration of power (and the impetus for many of the posts here).

Some more observations for anyone considering the school:

  • There’s a culture of conformity, despite the teaching of ‘diversity’. Arriving aged 4 it takes years to discover what our kids are capable of, and what their learning needs are, but the school does not flex well to cope with differences of learning style or behaviour in my view.
  • The ethic of individualised learning is promoted but not properly put into practice I feel. It’s all about the 11+ exams from year 3 onwards with a significant ramping up of workload for everyone.
  • The high homework load means that you need to invest lots of time in home schooling on top of the time at the Gower, or use a tutor every week. This is bonkers for primary school kids in my view.
  • Other private schools in the area have much lower homework burdens (according to parents I've spoke to) and get great 11+ results. At such a young age I think homework should be pretty light as kids struggle to find motivation and need to have plenty of time for their own independent play, not a life full of organised activities and homework. I think this is partly a problem of overloading the daily timetable with all sorts of events and special days, leaving a lack of time for key teaching areas in class.
  • I believe there is a lack of expertise and poor organisation in dealing with straightforward, common SEN situations that the school should be coping with. Expensive assessments are requested that give teachers the same guidance already widely available in books or online, but staff seem unaware, showing little confidence in this area.
  • Teacher/parent presentations are frequently conducted by the Head, with the actual teachers standing to one side looking completely disempowered. I found it quite bizarre, but just another example of the leadership being seen to take control of almost everything.
  • The demands on your time asked by the Gower are high, with a packed timetable and endless variations to keep up with. I don’t belive this is all for the good of your child either. It’s a high pressure environment for no better reason that that the school tries to do too much and doesn’t broker the notion that some might not want to join in.
Dontcallmemummy8 · 07/11/2024 16:39

I've thought about posting here during my peri-menopausal 4AM insomnia because despite the somewhat embarrassing nature of previous posts I made we were wrong. We drank the Kool Aid and we fell for it. Moving DC was traumatic for them (they didn't talk to me for two weeks) but it was the best thing we ever did. In fact, I feel guilty we didn't do it sooner.

They moved to a "proper school" with a Board of Governors and with proper safeguarding procedures. DC thrived there because there wasn't this oppressive atmosphere and a ridiculous focus on dress up days, music days and photo opportunities that she can post on Facebook. Also if you want a Montessori education then beyond Y3 it isn't remotely that.

OnandonN1 · 07/11/2024 19:56

My time as a staff member at TGS was marred by toxic behaviors, bullying, and a disturbing hush culture from the top down. Staff concerns are consistently swept under the rug, and anyone who speaks up faces retaliation or silent exclusion. There’s no real support for team members; just a constant pressure to conform and endure a demeaning environment. Those few teachers who have stayed for years (there aren't many of them) unfortunately are part of the problem (no matter how "good" of a teacher they may be). "It hasn't happened to me... Yet!" So many ex members of staff have communicated how they were emotionally and psychologically abused at this school... I certainly couldn't stand by and watch any longer.

The poor children... The school’s constant themed days, videos, and carefully curated photos are purely marketing propaganda, designed to give the appearance of a joyful, thriving school. But the reality is far from it. Diversity, inclusion, and belonging are mere buzzwords with no real substance here. Students are pushed to conform to the "TGS way"—forced into boxes where they must mimic adult ideals, with little room for self-expression. Kids (not allowed to use that word btw) with SEND, unique personalities, or alternative interests face shaming rather than support. All that matters is one thing: high grades.

As for the consistently positive inspection reports? Money and connections. It’s clear that G has long maintained a culture where image is valued over integrity. And yet, the principal continues unchallenged. Why isn’t anyone holding this person accountable? It is evident that she doesn't like teachers or children or parents that don't fit into her very small box.

BranchingOut · 08/11/2024 18:43

It sounds like an awful atmosphere @OnandonN1

I attended an open day at The Gower School and, as an ex-teacher, felt that it wasn't quite all that it was purporting to be, but thankfully never pursued an application as we moved away from the area.

There is a troubling lack of governance, although has anyone ever explored whistleblowing to the Independent Schools Inspectorate?

However, as I wrote up thread, some of the parental involvement elements are in the hands of the parent body. There is nothing to prevent a group of Gower School parents forming together and setting up a PTA, or a Parents' Association or a 'Friends of the Gower School'. This can be registered as a charity and there is nothing whatsoever that EG can do to stop it happening as it would be a separate organisation to the school. The charitable purposes and governing document would need some thought of course. Once this gained momentum, I think it might have some effect.

mrstyles · 19/11/2024 18:24

I was brought back to this thread by someone liking a post of mine from a few years ago.

The recent posts above from @Dontcallmemummy8 and especially @Caledonian2024 ring particularly true from my personal experience of 3 years at TGS.

Funny however many years pass, the same issues persist in this thread... It's pretty clear why!

With the benefit of hindsight now my child has finished primary education, I can categorically say removing my child from TGS was probably the best decision we have ever made as a family.

The new school was much bigger, much better resourced, better facilities, better teachers and comms and with a more stratified and far superior management.

The only thing we missed were the parents and kids from TGS who were lovely and we still keep in contact with!

But in terms of school, we never looked back and (using the third person for anonymity rather than identity politics!) our child thrived in the new school in a way I know they couldn't have in the culture at TGS, they ended up being a Head Student in their final year and having a genuinely incredible experience.

I'm also happy to say that after the two serious safeguarding issues we experienced at TGS, we didn't experience one at the school we moved our child to in the 4 years they were there.

DaisyChain111 · 06/12/2024 15:35

If your DC hasn't yet told you about the "drain cleaner man", do ask them. Apparently the school and head feel that it is appropriate to teach our children prejudice and classism... We are almost out of the school and just keeping our heads down until we are.

RatherShiny · 09/03/2025 16:14

I found this thread years ago and every so often I check in on it, out of curiosity. My child attended the Gower School for several years. Eventually we chose to move them, for many of the reasons spelled out by other posters. If you're reading this and wondering, "Could this all be true?" I can confirm that everything in this thread reflects the experience we also had at the school.

-- I felt like I had taken on another full time job with the expectations that the school places on parents. You'll be required to provide snack for the class 1-2 times a month, bring a plant for the classroom once a term, and there are more dress up days and special activities (music festival, swim gala, etc) than I could count during the school year. Events are often during work hours (don't they realise we have jobs?) and attendance was mandatory. I don't know I can even communicate the level of stress that all of this added to our lives - I found it very difficult to manage as a working parent.

-- School communication is often poor. I do think they are trying to improve it, but I found it overwhelming at times - trying to remember where I had seen specific information was a dance I did weekly. Was it in the newsletter, an email, in the messaging app? It was hard to manage. And sometimes, major events were not communicated at all - one year, our child's teacher was changed days prior to school starting and the school didn't even think it was necessary to let the parents know at all.

-- The school is not really a Montessori school, I found. Starting in year 1, everyone does the same lessons and same class work. There is a lot of pressure to do well academically, more than felt healthy during younger years. And the level of homework is unacceptable. I remember in year 3, trying to complete hours of homework, sitting with my child and thinking, WHY?

-- The expectations on small children are sometimes ridiculous. At 7, my child was assigned an oral presentation that was supposed to be 15 minutes long. I don't know many 7 year olds that can put together and then present a 15 minute long presentation. What that means is that you as a parent will end up doing this work so that your child can complete the assignment. Later that year, my child was also expected to write a book, on their own. Guess who ended up doing that assignment too.

-- Beginning in Year 4, and then moving into Year 5, the school is basically focused on 11+ training. A lot of class time is used for prepping your child to do well on the 11+ test and your child will do practice tests during class time. If you care about that and want that for your child, perhaps this is what you want to hear - but for us, it was excessive. At 9-10 years old, school should not be about practicing to take a test.

-- If your child has any additional needs, or isn't the star student in the class, be prepared for lots of feedback about how they don't measure up. I didn't get very much positive feedback about my child until we moved schools. It was also common that teachers across the school wouldn't have any information about my child's needs, even though we had a support plan in place. Many seemed not to have any training at all in this area.

About the head specifically:

-- In contrast with the heads of other schools that I've met, I found that Ms Gowers most often was cold and unfriendly. She could be nice over a Zoom call, but every time I saw her in person it was almost as if she would have rather done anything else than say hello to me in the morning. It is possible that she's different with those that she likes, as I don't think we ever measured up in her eyes.

-- In earlier years, expect that your child and YOU will get lessons on parenting with topics like acceptable manners, such as which words are not ok to use ("literally" was on the list). It felt random and more like a list of things that Ms Gowers personally didn't like. If you want someone to tell you how to live, she is happy to do that, I found.

-- It often seemed to me that the expectations placed upon children at TGS were in not aligned with their development. Almost as if she expects perfect behaviour from miniature little adults who happen to be in her care. If your child cannot fall in line, you'll likely not fit in long term.

-- When I mentioned at a meeting with Ms Gowers that we planned on helping our child continue their learning in the summer (as a result of yet another meeting where we were told they were not quite where they should be), she told me that I shouldn't do that, because I might not teach them the right way - or the way they teach at TGS, I assume. I felt ok ignoring this suggestion, it seemed way out of line.

-- Once a year, the school holds a music festival, and Ms Gowers invites a man into the school (can't remember his name but he is lovely) to give feedback to each child after they perform. This man is charming and gives feedback to the children in a way that makes them smile. It is largely positive. After he gives his feedback, Ms Gowers also chooses to do the same. I attended the music festival several years in a row and witnessed her giving often harsh and critical feedback, and personally saw her crush several children with her criticism in front of all of their friends and an entire audience of parents. Pointing out all the flaws of an 8 year old's performance, after you forced them to attend and play in a music festival (it's mandatory, don't forget) is a very special kind of punishment.

I could go on, but won't. While there were a few bright spots - the parents and children are lovely, and there was one really great teacher in there for us during our time - I don't think it was enough to outweigh the stress that TGS brought into our lives.

We eventually chose to move our child to another school nearby for the remainder of their primary years and it made such a difference. They thrived at the new school, made new friends, teachers had glowing feedback and about four months into the new school, my child said to me, "I like school!" which is not something I ever thought I would hear. It was very difficult to make the move, especially since my child had such lovely friends, but I have never regretted it, only regretted that we didn't do it sooner. Once we got out of TGS, it felt like our lives came back into balance.

Dontcallmemummy8 · 09/03/2025 21:39

One hundred million per cent @RatherShiny. I actually feel guilty almost every single day that I subjected my DC to that toxic environment. It isn't the teachers - they are utterly, utterly brilliant but the atmosphere comes from the top. I wish I hadn't been so wilfully blind that I disregarded what appears to be the longest thread in Mumsnet history. There is a reason for the length of it.

BranchingOut · 10/03/2025 10:31

BranchingOut · 08/11/2024 18:43

It sounds like an awful atmosphere @OnandonN1

I attended an open day at The Gower School and, as an ex-teacher, felt that it wasn't quite all that it was purporting to be, but thankfully never pursued an application as we moved away from the area.

There is a troubling lack of governance, although has anyone ever explored whistleblowing to the Independent Schools Inspectorate?

However, as I wrote up thread, some of the parental involvement elements are in the hands of the parent body. There is nothing to prevent a group of Gower School parents forming together and setting up a PTA, or a Parents' Association or a 'Friends of the Gower School'. This can be registered as a charity and there is nothing whatsoever that EG can do to stop it happening as it would be a separate organisation to the school. The charitable purposes and governing document would need some thought of course. Once this gained momentum, I think it might have some effect.

Sad to see that this is still happening.

May I ask, has any thought ever been given to the suggestion in my post of forming a Parents’ Association? These mechanisms exist for a reason and would enable parents to organise under a legal umbrella, especially if it were constituted as a separate charity.

I had experience of another slightly oppressive educational environment (although nothing on the scale of TGS) and managed to set up an informal parent group, despite initial opposition from the management. I was actually called in for a dressing-down by management (!), but later on they came around to the idea. I didn’t run it for long, due to moving house, but it had some success.

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