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How bad does Ofsted have to be to get rid of the HT?

10 replies

Casey · 05/06/2013 17:17

Our school got 4 (unsatisfactory) overall, including 4 for leadership/management.

Is it automatic that the HT will be sent packing?

If your HT left after Ofsted, what were the Ofsted results?

Also, has anyone had 4s, including 4s for Leadership, and the HT stayed on?

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SenoritaViva · 05/06/2013 17:20

It sounds to me like the head teacher will/should go

LineRunner · 05/06/2013 17:29

My DD's school got a 4 including for Leadership last year when she was in her GCSE year.

Numerous parents has already complained to the HT and Governing Body about the dreadful teaching, and high number of teacher vacancies, in Maths and other subjects.

The HT stayed on, as did the Chair of Governors. They were/are about to convert to an academy and used this as their rationale for staying on to 'create improvement'. (Yeah, right.)

My DD then left for sixth-form college and the latest I hear is that the HT resigned under pressure from the council but the Chair of Governors tried to stay on, and the council then put in an interim governing board.

If the school is not an academy, push your council to intervene, and ask other parents to do the same.

lljkk · 05/06/2013 17:41

Took 8 yrs (junior school rated Satisfa most that time, and often spoken well by parents to be fair) from going into SM (2004) before HT was finally forced out in a parental coup (2012). 2004 Ofsted report was easily the worst I ever read, spoke specifically about lack of leadership.

School was Ofsted'd 3 days after new HT took over & promptly back into SM, nobody was surprised. New HT is widely regarded as Ace, at least.

Startail · 05/06/2013 17:43

4 got rid of ours Sad, I liked her, the school didn't deserve the Ofsted it got 3 would have been far fairer.

There are faults, but they needed certain Depts and their heads kicked up the arse. Not doing this was the HTs failing perhaps, but you can neither dismiss people just for being old school or recruit perfection when it doesn't apply for the job.

nennypops · 05/06/2013 21:01

The Ofsted criteria have changed recently, making it extremely hard to get Outstanding and only too easy to get a 4. Schools that get 4 become almost automatically candidates for becoming academies. Gove wants lots of schools to become academies.

Some might say those three facts are connected, I couldn't possibly comment.

prh47bridge · 05/06/2013 22:04

I suspect the HT and the Chair of the Governors at LineRunner's school were deluding themselves if they thought that an academy sponsor would keep them in place (an underperforming school converting must have a sponsor). A sponsor would want changes and with leadership rated unsatisfactory they are obviously in the firing line.

nennypops - In the 2009/10 academic year, where the last government was in power for most of the year, 56% of schools inspected achieved those rankings. In 2010/11 this rose to 57% and in 2011/12 it was up to 61%. The figure for the first quarter of the current year was 64%. At the other end of the scale 8% of schools were declared unsatisfactory in 2009/10. In 2011/12 the figure was again 8% having dropped to 6% in 2010/11. The figure for the first quarter of the current year is 6%. So the figures simply do not support the oft-repeated allegation that Ofsted is ranking lots more schools as unsatisfactory in order to force them to convert to academies.

prh47bridge · 05/06/2013 23:22

Sorry - edited what I said to nennypops to make it clearer and left it saying nonsense! Change the first sentence to read, "In the 2009/10 academic year, where the last government was in power for most of the year, 56% of schools were ranked good or outstanding."

LineRunner · 06/06/2013 08:25

I suspect the HT and the Chair of the Governors at LineRunner's school were deluding themselves

Absolutely, prh47.

Biscuitsneeded · 06/06/2013 09:54

I know of one. New Head had only been in place a short while after fairly lacklustre predecessor, so survived the experience because it was believed he could make changes. We will see! Was also one of those forced academy conversion situations, so I suspect the ofsted result was a foregone conclusion based purely on previous year's results, for which head had no responsibility.

Startail · 06/06/2013 10:49

We were already an academy.

I think Ofsted are playing a longer game, both forcing schools to become academies to please the conservatives and making a few academies fail in case labour come to power.

I suspect Ofsted don't give a fuck about education, or children, Gove or the shadow education secretary. They just want to keep their cushy power crazed jobs.

Remember, there are far fewer LEA posts for them if a NUT friendly Labour minister decided to abolish them.

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