Would you be prepared to pay more tax to get better state education for all?

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Any other suggestions welcome to ensure that all where ever they live and whatever their background have access to education of the highest quality.

And the teaching unions were prepared to discuss anything constructively.

Oh and I have 3 children below the age of 8.

socareless, most families in this country are net "takers". State education costs £5,000 per child per annum. The NHS costs £1,700 per person per year. etc etc.

Please just leave me alone. It's getting boring now.

I was asked what my family's tax position was. I said.

No, good schools have good management. I would like to see the end of state funded faith schools though and I would prefer everyone went to their local school, but thats not going to happen.

Yes. Another vote for more, and better quality, vocational schools as part of the deal please.

And wasn't put into faith schools.

Grovel my children are on private school and we have private health care. we have gone down this route because we are fed up of state institutions.

I'm a net 'payer'. I would be prepared to pay higher taxes for better services, yes, whether that was the NHS or education. I'd also frankly be prepared to pay a bit more in tax to fund better benefits for those that need them. Although, obviously, it's difficult to define 'a bit'. I'd quite like the idea of paying more in tax so that pensions are possible in 20 years time, I would absolutely refuse (I'd go to the barricades) to pay more so that pensions were better right now.

But.

While I understand better than most that we cannot hypothecate taxes, I am not happy with the way public spending is divvied up now. I have no confidence I'd be any happier if there was a bigger pot to divvy up. I'm reasonably convinced I would be less happy. So there's that. I also think that education budgets currently are mismanaged and mis-applied. S there's that. I live in one of the lowest funded areas in the country for education (and everything else). And that wouldn't change even if I was paying over even more than I currently do. So there's that. And I wouldn't want to see Gove or any of his cronies in charge of the budget for a jumble sale. So there's that.

I guess I'm saying I'd be happy to pay more taxes for a variety of things if we had a different government. This lot, I don't trust them, I don't like them and I don't want to give them any more of my money to piss against the wall.

in private school I meant. I am using phone to post.

So which govt do you trust Russian? Ed's?

Socareless. Ed doesn't have a government. HTH. :)

Yes it helps artful dodger Russian.

I agree with no grammar schools. And no grants for private schools from the government. But I don't think a good school is just down to funding alone.

It's not my fault if you ask ridiculous nonsense questions.

But I'll help you out. I would have been prepared to pay more tax under the two previous governments and I would have been rather more confident than I am now that the money would have gone to things I thought should have it (with the fairly major exceptions of the Iraq war and pensioners). Even then though, where I live was one of the lowest funded places in the country. It doesn't matter who is in charge, we get screwed. :(

Vivienne presumably you don't agree with SEN provision either then?

"most families in this country are net "takers". State education costs £5,000 per child per annum. The NHS costs £1,700 per person per year. etc etc."
Grovel I think we need to get the NHS budget onto perspective here taken from their website:
"Only the Chinese People?s Liberation Army, the Wal-Mart supermarket chain and the Indian Railways directly employ more people.
The NHS in England is the biggest part of the system by far, catering to a population of 53m and employing more than 1.35m people. The NHS in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland employs 153,427; 84,817 and 78,000 people respectively.
The NHS deals with over 1 million patients every 36 hours."
Budget = £108.9 billion.
Education £36.4 billion.

Yes

Also, all private schools abolished
And proper COMPREHENSIVE education in place ie no selection by ability or faith

AND education needs to be separated from politics

The quality and accessiblity of children's education should not be subject to battles of political ideology and electioneering gimmickry. It's uncivilised.

More tax won't make education better.

Schools need to be managed better such that teachers get proper support from heads/governors. The biggest difference between schools is the quality of their management. More effort needs to go into recruiting and incentivising heads.

No.

A lot of the problems with the UK's bad education are not financial.