parents or teachers-any of you had 4 or 5 problematic kids in your class-prejudicing other kids

[dolally]

My dd(10) has 4 or five disruptive, undisciplined and thoroughly yukky kids in her class. the things they have done, seem to go slighly beyond the call of duty for a 10 yr old. They include one weeing on the other, being brutal with each other, stealing from each other and other, foul language,etc... They have been excluded from school for a few days but nothing seems to have worked. The form teacher has been off sick for one month due to depression/stress --- some of which was due to her class, though some of which was presumably for personal reasons too.

Anyway, the parents are having a meeting next week as we generally seem to feel that our kids are not in the most healthy environment. My own DD seems to be becoming rather bullying at home and I wonder how much of this has to do with school. Another mother apparently says her son's grades are going down. the teachers seem to be able to do nothing except throw the ringleaders out of the class occasionally. One of the mothers says she thinks nothing will change as its the school that needs to deal with this situation: the parents are pretty powerless.

Do we all need to demand our kids are transferred out of this class? I would appreciate your ideas for when I attend this meeting. I will transfer my dd out of this class or even the school if I have to, though she has a handful of good friends (the nice ones) who she went to primary school with, so she would be sad to leave them.

Will check back later if any of you have any ideas, going out now to take dd to danceclass!!!

Meerkat, our case is the same, these kids are not special needs as far as I know. But they are from families who don't or can't give much priority to education and behaviour. One or two or them according to my dd are quite bright but are easily distracted into behaving badly.

Our meeting is now on 18th April, difficult to pin down all the parents! It will be just parents so hopefully we won't spend the evening grumbling but will actually decide what we want done by the school.

cece - totally ignorant I am of what edb, iep and sen MEAN!

EBD, Emotional behavioural disorder....most often used when there is a behavioural issue that isn't tied into ADHD, (attention defivity hyperactivity disorder) or ASD (autistic spectrum disorder), SEN, special educational need....andy need which cannot be met by 'normal' teaching and learning....may be physical, mental/cognitive or behavioural, IEP, individual education plan, a document that all children with SEN should have. It shoulf outline stratagies and support that meet the child's special educational need, sets targets etc

thanks mb, I'm sure we have those situations here in Portugal but I do feel I'm on a sharp learning curve, along with my kids at school.

our problem is in playgroup!!
ds1 is 2.5yrs old and strated playgroup in spetember.
there is one little bpy who is just plain nasty to all of the other children.
he pushes them over and hits them, circle time is an excuse top get close to the other children to kick them. the little dancing bit is an excuse to headbut them or just to collide with them.
he cannot be left on hos own for 1 second..the workers are fantastic at trying to sort it out, but sadly i have seen no improvement. we go as parent helpers and i have a baby- i can't put him down at all for 2.5hrs whilst i am there as this little boy is likely to push him over or on occaision has tried to smash him over the head with train track...
aghhhhhh
ds1 has come home a couple of times saying he doesn't like xxx and crying.