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Class and Education - Lampl

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Xenia · 15/09/2012 21:41

In today's FT:

Break down the barriers in English education

By Sir Peter Lampl

English schools are undergoing another major shake-up as Michael Gove removes them from local authority oversight and introduces a broader range of providers. No wonder, then, that the first fortnight of the new school year has been a turbulent one. Many headteachers are angry that Ofqual, the exam regulator, regraded GCSE English papers downwards midyear. Teaching unions are threatening a work-to-rule protest over pay and pensions. And many more schools have become academies, with more control over funding, governance and the curriculum.

This is the battleground of English education. But another piece of news this week was even more significant. On Tuesday the OECD reported that our schools were the most socially segregated among advanced economies. This underlines the biggest problem facing England?s schools: the close relationship between family income and how good a school a child goes to. The result is that children from poorer backgrounds have fewer opportunities to move up the ladder.

English education has improved under successive governments. Standards of teaching, and especially school leadership, are better. There have been significant improvements in London schools, particularly for some ethnic communities. But this is not good enough. We have to outpace other economies, particularly in Asia, that have improved faster. The UK languishes in 25th place in the OECD?s league tables for reading and in 28th place for maths, where Shanghai is now the best in the world. This does not reflect the position of all our young people. Rather it is a stark reminder that levels of social mobility have worsened since the 1960s and remain very low, despite government investment and reform in education.

I believe one reason for this is that governments have focused on structural reform, such as creating academies or free schools, rather than on improving teaching. Yet it is good teaching that really matters. Teachers? salaries account for four-fifths of a school?s costs and this reflects the value they deliver. Research by McKinsey has shown that the world?s best-performing education systems are those with the best teaching. The OECD now rates leadership in English schools highly, but we still have much more to do to improve teaching.

First, we need to attract more of the best graduates to the classroom. Ten years ago I helped establish the Teach First programme in England, modelled on the successful Teach for America programme. Teach First is recruiting almost 1,000 graduates this year from top universities, including Oxford and Cambridge, to teach in inner-city schools for a minimum of two years. Approximately half then leave to pursue other careers.

It has been a great success. But with 36,000 teachers recruited each year, it is only a part of the solution. In Finland and South Korea there are 10 applicants for every teaching place. Here we regard it as a success if every place is filled.

Even more important will be to improve the quality of the existing 440,000-strong workforce. Sutton Trust research shows that English schools could move into the world?s top five education performers within a decade if the performance of the least effective 10th of teachers were brought up to the average.

While improving teaching is crucial, we also have to address inequality in our education system, which has a substantial cost to society and the economy, since it prevents many of the most able children from non-privileged backgrounds from achieving their potential.

The best schools in England are world-class. But they are also socially exclusive. Seven per cent of English pupils go to fee-paying independent schools, which are out of reach for the rest of the population. Another 4 per cent attend the remaining selective grammar schools, which draw just 2 per cent of their pupils from the poorest households. The top-performing comprehensives ? mainly faith schools and comprehensives in well-off areas ? take just 6 per cent of their pupils from the poorest households. This compares with a national average of 16 per cent.

We should address this inequality in three ways. First, we should use random ballots to determine admissions to our urban secondary schools, rather than basing admissions on how close you live to the school or how religious you are. This would ensure a good social mix. Second, grammar schools should select more fairly, attract able students from poorer backgrounds and provide them with the extra help that better-off pupils get in prep schools or from private tutors.

Third, we must open independent day schools to all. Their students are 55 times more likely to win an Oxbridge place and 22 times more likely to go to a top-ranked university than a state school student from a poor household. The absence of poorer students from these universities is a shocking waste of talent.

My independent day school was totally funded by the local authority. Indeed, seven out of 10 independent day schools were principally state funded until 1976 through the direct grant scheme and local schemes.

Between 2000 and 2007, I co-funded a pilot scheme at Belvedere, an independent girls? day school in Liverpool, replacing fees with admission based on academic ability. Parents paid according to means. As a result, a third of pupils paid no fees. Academic standards improved and it was a happy place for pupils of all backgrounds. Moreover, the cost per pupil was less than at the average state school.

More than 80 leading independent day schools would back such a state-funded scheme, which would benefit more than 30,000 able students, whose parents could not afford full fees. It would require selective admissions, which political parties oppose. Yet far from creating new selection, such a scheme would democratise existing selective schools and break down the barriers between the independent and state sectors.

Taken together, I believe that these measures to improve teaching and reduce inequality would transform social mobility and unleash a wealth of talent to fuel our economy. And they would put England in the education premier league.

The writer is chair of the Sutton Trust and of the Education Endowment Foundation "

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Silibilimili · 21/09/2012 22:05

rabbit

have you achieved what you wanted to achieve in life? Or do you suspect you have low aspirations and ought to be doing more? What more would you like to have achieved? It's not just the school's job to give you aspirations - you could develop a few of your own?

Hmm. yes, I have achieved what I wanted to. I do not have low aspirations either. I would like to have been given the opportunity to learn a foreign language without the teachers resigning/leaving 6/7 times in a 3 year period. Same for science where I had 3 changes of teachers in a 2 year period. I would also have liked more help in class for the asylum seeking non-english speaking population. The children (yes) the white working class who got pregnant before school ended should have been inspired more. being called the name 'boffin' should not have had a negative intonation. Music and other such extra curricular activities should also have been more freely accessible.

I still do not fully understand your post re. America. Yes, there will always be an underclass in all societies. However, it is easier in the USA to raise your 'class' than it is in the UK. And I really do not think the USA is 'full'. USA is built on hard working immigrants (yes, the ones that killed off the original indigenous population), so it can hardly complain about 'immigrants'.

If not exams, how else would one measure achievement/capability quickly and effectively?

The brightest people maybe don't just need formal teaching, they benefit from the chance to discuss and share ideas with someone they can look up to or spar with, not a teacher who is, in fact, only one lesson ahead of them in the syllabus. Not all teachers are capable of that (and not all teachers capable of that are capable of giving a good, structured lesson for the more averagely intelligent).

Agree with your above statement but somehow seems to contradict what you have been saying does it not?

Exams seldom test your ability to be innovative, either. In fact, if you have a thick examiner, or a computer marking your paper, your originality may hold you back.

Hmm, how can you be innovative in basic maths? Or basic spelling/grammar?

As for innovation, there are lots of subjects in school where one can practice this. English essays, science, etc etc. rabbit I believe you need to think out of your box of prejudices.

Xenia · 21/09/2012 22:07

Each parent decides what is important. For some it will be some kind of Saudi fundamentalist school in London. For others home education with literal belief in the bible. For some it will be boarding and others the local sink comp for political reasons to raise its standard. That is why the UK is great - we have some choices and we dont' have a socialist state telling us there is one and only one way to be and to educate a child.

In general if you have a reasonably bright child the academic private schools offer a great education, well beyond the syllabus and are pretty good at the holistic side of things, the wider person, helping you to lead, speak well, have confidence, develop a huge wealth of hobbies from which you can pick your life long favourites and giving you life long loves such as classical music, sport or whatever your interests might be.

So one might argue it behoves women to pick careers which enable them to pay fees for such schools, that that is part of their duty as mother.

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Xenia · 21/09/2012 22:10

A point from rabbit's post above on exchange of ideas. It is not fun if you are with others who aren't very bright and there are not enough bright children with whom to exchange ideas and bounce ideas off each other which is why putting bright children together in separate schools works so well, so very well indeed that British schools which develop such children so well are the envy of the world because those top schools offer so much more than the rote learning and discipline of the Chinese.

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Silibilimili · 21/09/2012 22:16

Xenia,

I agree with your statement:

So one might argue it behoves women to pick careers which enable them to pay fees for such schools, that that is part of their duty as mother.

However, I thought we were discussing state education system and how to improve it. Not getting into private vrs state.

TalkinPeace2 · 21/09/2012 22:16

On the other hand Xenia,
when DD is asked to mentor less bright children, explaining what seems obvious is an EXCELLENT learning tool and really solidifies her knowledge of subjects
and she gains a much greater understanding of how different people think than I ever had ...

Rabbit
DH is not an OFSTED inspector - and he DOES see the schools as they really are - which is why I find the kite flying of many posters so irritating

Silibilimili · 21/09/2012 22:18

Xenia

A point from rabbit's post above on exchange of ideas. It is not fun if you are with others who aren't very bright and there are not enough bright children with whom to exchange ideas and bounce ideas off each other which is why putting bright children together in separate schools works so well, so very well indeed that British schools which develop such children so well are the envy of the world because those top schools offer so much more than the rote learning and discipline of the Chinese.

Exactly. Statement well put. However, some things need to be learnt by rote which we in the UK have abandoned (such as times tables). We need to pick and choose what works. Not blindly follow just one 'system' to the detriment of all others.

rabbitstew · 21/09/2012 22:20

Of course some of what I say contradicts other things I have said - because I have conflicting thoughts and feelings on what I ought to do for the best for my own children and want to examine the absolute worst and best reasons for doing one thing or another and establish how other people get to the shades of grey required to make a reasonable decision without guilt Grin. What I see and how other people interpret the state of education generally just don't tally and it makes me feel like the rug is being pulled out from under my feet and I'm seeing things which aren't there (eg the comprehensive system is failing, which is not something I see where I am, but some people are so adamant about it that I wonder what I'm not seeing; comprehensive education is the only fair way of doing things and it is not fair to pull your children out of a comprehensive system so that it is no longer truly comprehensive; GCSEs are a failure of an exam versus they need serious tweaking but you must not throw the baby out with the bathwater etc, etc).

inkyfingers · 21/09/2012 22:24

Go on Xenia, just choose a school for my DCs to go to and I'll forward you the cheque.

What future for the 93% who don't get this education we're paying for? We'll hope they don't bust the citadel.

Silibilimili · 21/09/2012 22:28

Also, if all women started to earn enough to own an island, the law of supply and demand will come in and the islands will become very very expensive. Similarly to private education fees! Smile

pianomama · 21/09/2012 22:30

rabbit - may be you do over-complicate things.After all , it is up to you to do what You think is right for Your DC. Their are not ours, they are not state's - they are Yours. Your genes, your family background, your talents, your looks,your houes, your books, your friends...School is very much secondary.Relax already :) There is no such a thing as a "right" or "wrong" thing to do.

TalkinPeace2 · 21/09/2012 22:32

Personally I'd rather have my marriage and time with my kids than lots of school fees. I know that is a tad below the belt, but I can broaden my children's education in ways that schools will never think of - and have the funds to do it because I'm not paying fees and DH and I are both able to take August off to explore and adventure with our children.

rabbitstew · 21/09/2012 22:35

Oooh, pianomama - I would have been much happier making decisions if I hadn't taken the foolish option of attempting to be open minded, take in other peoples' views, challenge them as vigorously as possible and see how well they responded, mull them over and then have to make a choice! I think I will have to go with my feelings, not my thoughts, then I will at least be able to look back and think I acted with integrity, even if not with intellectual clarity!

rabbitstew · 21/09/2012 22:37

My very strong feeling is that I would rather have my marriage and time with my kids, too. They are the things which bring me the most happiness in life and if I'm happy, my children are happy.

Xenia · 21/09/2012 22:38

I don't think most of you woudl feed your children junk food because that makes it fairer given so many other children are fed it. Education is no different. If I earn the weekly minimum wage in an hour how can it be said high pay means no time with chidlren? It usually means the opposite.

The thread is not just about state schools. Lampl is proposing the state fund bright state pupils at private schools because the private schools are much better. If state school parents don't agree, that's fine. Women who can afford to pay fees will continue to be able to advantage their children. I am simply being altruistic by considering those others but I do believe our own personal moral imperative ought to be to favour our own, not damage them on some principle that to make things fair we should give ours a worse education or diet or living conditions because then they are in the same position as those who were born with different parents. I think that would be a ridiculous idea.

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pianomama · 21/09/2012 22:39

rabbit - Thats the spirit :) . As a mother with 27 years of experience, I have learnt 1 thing only - whatever you do with your DC , they will find something to complain about Grin

Silibilimili · 21/09/2012 22:40

Rabbitstew, but what are you giving up to attain time with husband/family? Surely you are not both stay at home parents living on benefits!! Grin

rabbitstew · 21/09/2012 22:42

I also have lots of time to do work for others for free, which also makes me feel happy - and lucky that I have the time and financial resources to do that.

TalkinPeace2 · 21/09/2012 22:43

both DH and I run our own companies.
We work like lunatics at some times of year but manage to work from home / laptop during school holidays.
Have not been allowed any benefits except Child Benefit for a few years ....
there are ways round all things and having been selective private school educated, I did not consider it worth the effort for my DCs .

rabbitstew · 21/09/2012 22:44

I am giving up an extremely well paid career which I didn't particularly enjoy - but I have the qualifications and confidence in myself and my abilities to think I can start up again doing something else when I feel like it, or when I have to, whichever comes first. Smile

rabbitstew · 21/09/2012 22:49

ps do not and never have claimed any benefits, except state education and NHS services and would always opt for going out to work rather than doing this. There are advantages to having saved when I was working, having no taste for high living, having a well paid husband and the time and money to pursue further qualifications for the next stage in my life, when I expect to have less of a role in my children's education and development.

rabbitstew · 21/09/2012 22:51

So maybe I suffer the occasional guilt trip for being so bl**dy lucky and try to make things difficult as a punishment, or give more money to charity, or do more work for free Grin.

Silibilimili · 21/09/2012 23:05

side tracking a little but not very much. Interesting article I read today.

www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/jobs/9557910/Why-dont-women-bank-on-getting-to-the-top.html

rabbit, good luck to you.

However, I do think women under achieve this way. I have been on maternity leave and am due to go back soon. My DD has just started school and the baby is happily growing. I am actually looking forward to going back! Really! I will still get the same amount of time with my partner (when he is back from work) and I will pay for a cleaner and a cook and a ironer. Grin. I am already craving teh intellectual stimulation that xenia seems to seek on here. I am working as I enjoy the challenge and want to be atleast a VP of the company I work for (not because my husband does not earn enough to fund my ebay habbit. Really. Will I get there? Who knows? Will I try? Certainly.

Will my children suffer and come out of school illiterate? Definitely not. Will I be a better role model and a mother for working? I think so.

We all have our demons.

mathanxiety · 21/09/2012 23:28

'I Don't think we would like communism ( create a more equal society). We want a more fluid society where class can be overcome by hard work. Something more like the opportunity America gives to its citizens would be good.'

Is it really so hard to imagine a society that is virtually classless? Where you are not virtually guaranteed to be set on a certain track from the day you first begin to imitate the speech of those around you?

The alternative to highly stratified /wantonly waste the talents of the majority Britain is to be found in Scandinavia, not America, where the likelihood of a poor, urban child getting to any university let alone a good one is very low, and the likelihood of staying there and eventually graduating even lower.

Why not level the playing field?

Why does class have to figure into every calculation? Is there something congenital in the British that makes the existence of a pecking order the default assumption? Is the overcoming of class seen as some bizarre proof of having accomplished a character-building exercise?

'I do believe our own personal moral imperative ought to be to favour our own, not damage them on some principle that to make things fair we should give ours a worse education or diet or living conditions because then they are in the same position as those who were born with different parents. I think that would be a ridiculous idea. '
And yet whose students are at the top of almost every league table there is? (Hint -- it is not Britain)
Is it so impossible to imagine every school having great teachers with a high degree of autonomy, fantastic remedial and sn backup, and children mixing together regardless of bank balances of parents?

British society runs on fear.

moonbells · 22/09/2012 05:55

I wonder whether they have such discussions as these in China. Or whether their 'communist' society has an anomalous scramble to the top where education is concerned. I know a lot of Chinese go abroad for university (which they are apparently trying to discourage, now), but if you're born in a small village there, do you have the same opportunities as city-born?

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