Golden time, punishment/reward - do all schools do it?

[donttrythisathome]

I have a two year old so haven't experienced the joy of schools yet.

Am looking to move areas so I have been looking into schools. I am appalled that all the ones I've looked at use stickers for reward, "golden time" even for 4 year olds, public charts labelling kids as good/bad (well sunny/cloudy, happy/sad etc).

I don't want to get into a debate on the merits of this. I just want to know whether there are also a lot of state schools which don't use this method. Or is it pervasive?

Thanks for taking time to comment.

Lots of judgey pants comments. . Not going to address them individually, but lots of commenters didn't read my posts properly or misunderstood.
I didn't ask for alternatives. Read my first post, just wondering if the system was widespread.

Last time I'm going to say this (broken record).

When I say I didn't ask for alternatives, I didn't mean I like the present system though. Just want to gauge if it is the norm.

Yes, behaviour management is the norm in schools.

There is behaviour management in play in every group situation I can think of. We have a Code of Practice for staff. If you don't follow it you get in trouble. There are laws every member of society have to follow. If you don't follow them you get in trouble. There is 'etiquette' i.e. unspoken social rules at play in every group of humans. If you don't conform to it you don't get to belong to the group.

So it's really not just the norm in schools.

Think you are conflating several very different things there EBDTeacher but anyway, not going to get into a debate about the whole spectrum of human interaction!

I am not debating anything. TBH I pity the school you choose.

"I just want to know whether there are also a lot of state schools which don't use this method."

If, by "this method," you mean stickers/House Points/smiley faces/sunshine cloudsetc.. behaviour management strategies, then I would say 'yes,' most if not all schools will use a variation/combination of those things. Wherever you choose to send your dd (or more to the point, whichever school you are given by your LEA) she will encounter children whose behaviour might truly appal you. And then you'd better hope that the school do operate such systems.

I'm not quite sure why you're coming across as quite so snippy on this thread. People are trying to help.

Indigo those classroom rules look like really good fun, and emphasise empathy and emotional intelligence too at the same time! Thanks for sharing, gave me a giggle.

DS's nursery use stickers for situations like that, thisisyesterday. I saw it a lot when I was settling him in. Most of the kids sat down quietly and a few fidgeting or getting up and running around. She picks the quietest kids first and says "Ooh, James, I can give you a sticker because you're sitting lovely and still, well done!", working her way around the whole classroom. The kids who are sitting down but fidgeting slightly see what it expected and stop moving so much, she gives out more stickers. Eventually gets to the ones who are completely standing up and starts saying to them "Oh, I wish I could give you a sticker, Anna, but you need to be sitting down on my carpet with the other children."

After much cajoling the child eventually sits down for 2 seconds and is rewarded with a sticker

indigo Those classroom rules stem from the USA, where the ethos in schools is quite different from here. Not saying it's not a nice way of dealing with things, but I did part of my teacher training in the California, and have spent some time in schools in North Carolina and saw a lot of this type of approach in action. Seems great, but I just don't see it translating back here widely, because it's part of a much wider picture, some of which our system just isn't ready to adopt.

clam - can you elaborate?

Really unsure why you are posting if you don't want to answer anything anyone has asked, to try to be able to help you.

tbh, it's totally irrelavent if 90% of school across the country had no behaviour management system in place, if all that are viable options for you do have systems in place. I know you say you are moving, but presumably you don't have the whole country as an option, but will be constrained to one or two counties at the most ?

As EBD says every^ group has to have 'rules' or it wouldn't work as a group. By their very nature, schools have children grouped together. They need to help those who haven't yet learned to work as part of a group, to do so, or nobody would get anything done, and quite frankly it would be a safety nightmare. There are lots of ways to do this, and, IME most schools will use several ways from a pool of these. Sometimes it depends on the cohort you have in that class - what works for one group or child then doesn't work with the next year's class. Sometimes things start one way and develop during the year, to meet the needs of that class.

You have still not explained to any of us - people who are kind enough to take the time to try and help - what you mean by "this method" when the examples you have quoted are 3 different things. That's why people are asking what it is you object to, so they can decide if they know of any schools that don't use whatever it is you are objecting to.

Just googled whole brain teaching and came up with an example from youtube on this link:
smarticus.hubpages.com/hub/What-is-Power-Teaching

Woah!
Did the pupils learn anything in that lesson? :) ?

Thought it was the norm when Ds was in reception, now seems less so...
But, they still get stickers and other certificates etc for 'good' behaviour and actions in year 1.
Ds1 got something for great writing and was most pleased. Shocked in fact.

My teacher friend was telling me the other night (her wonderful teaching stamped upon by paperwork and red tape) that her ideal school would be where the policy is that there is no policy. Teachers are trusted to teach v well. Not sure how it would work in practice, but I know what she means.

We didn't have the sun and clouds in school in the late 70s/80s - but we did have team points. And the team point lists were up on the wall - all names and a star or whatever each time you got a team point. BUT team points could also be deducted for poor behaviour. Not sure how many parents would be keen on the demerit/removal these days tbh!