Anyone got a year 2 child on level 1C?

[nappyaddict]

DS is in year 1 and currently on level W (working towards 1C) and I was wondering if any year 2 children are only on level 1C? I understand level 2B is the national average for the end of year 2?

I have been told that within each level:

C means achieving some aspects of this level
B means achieving most aspects of this level
A means achieving all aspects of this level

it is not common but there will always be a few children in each school who are at this level.

My oldest left y1 on 1c. I worked with him over the summer holidays and the school provided extra help during y2 and he left Y2 with 2a across the board.

From what I understand its not the average to be a 2B, its where they should be iyswim.

There are quite a few kids in DS's (yr2) class who are below 2B.

We even get some Year 5's joining us on a W or Level 1!

A good school will put an IEP in place, lots of intervention and often, children make the most amazing progress, almost as though it just "clicks".

It is English or Maths OP? How about the rest of his subjects?

my daughter is the same but has just been diagnosed with dyslexia its not unusual but definitely there needs to be a plan as to how to help improve the situation as significant extra support

If a child is in Y2 and a 1C they are seriously behind.

My DD was like that in Y2.

Now in Y4 she is still seriously behind. I'm still hoping she'll catch up - but it's a big ask and def not guaranteed.

She has received a lot of extra help - since reception. I hope your DS is on the SEN register, has an IEP and is receiving extra help.

my ds(10) was on quite a low grade at that age, he's caught up now. kids develop at different ages

woudn't freak out yet, just talk to the school and make sure he gets extra help

Sorry - I should clarify. 1c at the beginning of Y2 is OK ( a bit behind) 1c at the end of Y2 is not OK (a lot behind)

IndigoBell Is your DD dyslexic or anything like that? Can you remember what level she was on at the start and end of year 2?

Nappy - yes, my DD has severe dyslexia.

At the start of Y2 she was a W, and at the end of Y2 she was either a W or a L1.

(School told me she was a 1, but the Ed Psych thought she was probably a W)

Now she's in Y4 and she still can't read or write. Not exactly sure of her levels at the moment, but probably a 1 for writing and a 2 for reading.

my son is still at that level, and nearing the end of y2. I should be more worried but I'm not. He's keen, imaginative, and enjoying learning. The school is working with him, and he's getting lots of support. Next year we're starting on an after school tutorial programme as well. He's been tested for dyslexia, but the school finds that isn't conclusive in year 2. They test again at year 4. Either it is all going to click in place for him with the reading or it won't. I can't think of anything else I or the school could be doing.

IndigoBell Do you know what she was for the start and end of year 3?

Does she get teased at school for being so far behind (I'm presuming she's in mainstream?)

My dd is in yr3 and is at about 1a / 2c, I think.

Start and end of Y3 she was a 1.

She doesn't get teased. But that's probably due to her personality.

(I was very worried about that, but didn't turn out to be a problem)

Gipsy - there is loads more you can be doing.

Indigo It's also probably due to the fact she's been with the same children since reception?

It might be different if she'd had to move schools half way through?

Was she 1C/B/A at start/end of Y3?

No, we moved school towards the end of Y2, and she is now in a larger school which mixes the kids up every year, so in Y2, Y3 and Y4 she has had different kids in her class who don't know her.

Start of Y3 she was a 1c in reading and writing, end of Y3 she was a 1b.

I don't know how many of my posts you have read, but I have been doing everything I can to cure DDs dyslexia, and am very, very, very close now.

For the first time she is almost reading. I am 100% confident by September her dyslexia will be cured.

Last Christmas I didn't think she'd ever be able to read. Her memory was so bad and her processing so slow that I literally thought it would be impossible. (And so did school and so did the EP who had diagnosed her with dyslexia)

Now, she has mostly learnt to read and can read about 9 out of 10 words in a chapter book. Her memory and processing speed are fine (something the EP told me couldn't be fixed) and we just have a bit more to go for her to go from 'almost cured' to 'cured'.

There is so much you can do to help your DS. Don't believe a label of dyselxia. Dyslexia doesn't exist. All it is is a description of the symptoms of struggling to learn to read and write - but it is not the cause of the problem.

The symptoms of struggling to learn to read and write are caused by many things. I've written about it all here

And to cure dyslexia you have to fix all of the underlying problems.

Mine was 1W too at end of yr1 for reading and writing. He suddenly clicked in Yr2 and zoomed along. Keep an eye on it and talk to the school, but not worth panicking about it just yet

Indigo, sounds like you've been through a lot with your DD. Can I just gently take slight issue with you using the word 'cure'? Honestly feel free to tell me to get lost, but I just wonder if you realise that a lot of dyslexics would find that term quite offensive? Being dyslexic is definitely something which can be helped and overcome to a certain degree, but it's not a disease, it's just that the brain's wired differently.

Indigo just wanted to add a positive, as maybe it explains what I mean.

So one example is a close friend who is severely dyslexic. He was classified as mentally sub-normal as a child and pretty much ignored all the way through school. He now has a doctorate, and is very high up in an NGO, lobbies Parliament and writes all manner of policy papers. Thing is, he always tells people he's dyslexic when he works with them. He's very matter of fact about it, and tells them what it means and how he has to work slightly differently to get to the same place as someone who wasn't dyslexic.

This friend's son is also profoundly dyslexic, but the way they've approached it is to embrace it and see it as part of who he is. He's had to really battle the education system on his son's behalf, but he's got him through it all and his son's doing A levels now and will go to a v.good university am sure as he has lots of offers and good predicted grades. He has a scribe for exams as he needs one. He has specialised computer software to help him write too. He's never got the hang of maths, as his brain just won't go there. He'll be fine and will do well in whatever he chooses to do, as I'm sure will your dd. Very tough to be the parent and have to fight for it all, but you sound so forensic about it all, I'm sure you'll find the right way through for her.

Ah that gives me a bit more hope about DS potentially moving schools then.

nappyaddict,
I can understand why you are worried, but children make a lot of progress at this age. My son was 1C in maths at the end of year 1, but was level 3 in maths by the end of year 2. It just needed some concepts to click and then he leapt in levels.

Factors like being young in the year or glue ear can hold children back in the early years. In year 1 my son was on the fourth table out of five tables. In year 5 he is on the top table for every subject. He no longer has glue ear and he has reasonable handwriting now. I know this is politically incorrect to say, but boys take longer to mature than girls.

smee - get lost :)

Dyslexia can be cured, as it is caused by a number of underlying problems all of which can be cured. (Neuro-development, vision, auditory and dietary problems)

Your friend may not want to be cured, or (much more likely) may not know how to. But I can and will cure my DD. (So far I'm about 60% of the way there)

Saying it can be cured, does not imply it is a disease. It implies it is something which can be fixed. (like crooked teeth or a broken arm)

I'm well aware that some people with dyslexia do fine in school (by using a variety of compensating strategies like you describe) - but who would choose that for their child when they don't have to?

I don't know why anyone would find it offensive to say I am curing my DD.

(But you are not the first person to say it is offensive)

Why on earth would I battle the education system when I could make life so much easier for her by curing her problems?

If your child was short sighted would it be offensive to say I'm going to get her laser eye surgery to cure her short sightedness?

Fair enough Indigo. You must do what you feel is best for your DD. Of course you must try and find a total solution for her if there is one. What parent wouldn't. t suppose my only real point is that I don't think there is one for many dyslexics and acceptance sometimes helps find a different way through.

Am getting lost now as rightly suggested! Genuinely hope you get her through and can reach the point where you feel she's cured.