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British children are Not the most heavily tested in Europe

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Ouluckyduck · 26/04/2012 07:13

Where does this myth come from? I have read it so many times on here and other forums. I come from Germany and there children are tested far more often than here, and given grades. They are, however, teacher-assessed. Anybody have any info from other countries to compare?

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sashh · 28/04/2012 07:05

Ouluckyduck

In the UK teacher set assignments / tests / school end of year exams do not count as 'tested'.

How often in Germany do school children sit national exams? I thought the Arbitur was just the final two years.

In the UK children take external exams at ages 7, 11, 14, 16, 17 and 18.

When I was at school, in the dark ages before GCSE, we only did external exams at 16 and 18, but we did have regular tests and end of term exams and a possition in class.

insancerre · 28/04/2012 14:07

great link mrz
I am currently writing a comparision of 5 countries for my degree in early years and that report contains some excellent quotes

quiplite · 28/04/2012 14:12

I grew up in the US, with constant testing, plus quarterly and yearly report cards with a specific grade. We always knew exactly where we were on an academic scale, because everyone knew each other's grades. Now my three are in the UK system (primary), and I admit I'm not sure what's better. Mostly I'm glad no one is slapping a public label on them, but part of me, when at teacher meetings I'm told they're doing 'fine', wants to say, "Could you just put a numerical value on that, backed up by weekly testing??" Grin

seeker · 28/04/2012 15:54

"A knowledge of Latin plus all the children's under her belt aged 11 meant my good friend from India could whip my arse in English comprehension! She's now a top journalist. I thought it was wonderful that her school assumed all could absorb the children's classics by the time they were 11 years old - it would be unthinkable in the UK now. It gave her such a head start and a lifelong love of literature."

Could also have meant that she never opened a book again!!

EdlessAllenPoe · 28/04/2012 17:11

personally i found the slow pace of one of the primary schools i went to more of a barrier to enthusiasm for learning than the daily testing (spelling and maths) of the best primary ...

only problem was it didn't continue at secondary!

EdlessAllenPoe · 28/04/2012 17:13

and an amazing number of top journos/ presenter types are classically educated. Gives you quite a love for mucking about with language.

Bucharest · 28/04/2012 17:26

SATs equivalent in Italy at 7,11 and 13 too, plus external exams at 14 and 18
written and oral teacher marked tests at least 8 times a year per subject plus the dreaded "interrogations" when kids will be well, interrogated on the work they are currently doing.

pointythings · 28/04/2012 21:20

I went through the Dutch system and yes, we had spelling (dictation) and maths tests pretty often in primary, several tests a week in secondary and termly tests as well.

We did not however have a shedload of national externally-marked tests, and in the Dutch system if you are streamed into an academic (A-level equivalent) school then you will not sit the Dutch equivalent of a GCSE or AS - only the actual A-level equivalent exams.

There are national tests at age 11 to stream children into their secondary schools (teacher assessment also has a role in this) but they are mostly IQ and aptitude tests, not the SATs we have here.

I think the UK needs a shift of emphasis - I would personally trust my DDs' teachers' assessment of their abilities over the result of a snapshot test taken on one day - however much that test had been crammed for. That doesn't mean I am against in-house tests - DD1 has these very regularly, she revises for them conscientiously and takes them very seriously. I think it teaches her useful revision skills and I'm all in favour. All that externally-marked stuff, especially with it being used as a stick to beat schools with for league tables, I can do without.

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