bangersandmash I can't think of anything that >would contradict my Christian beliefs in either of >those subjects.....
Evolution ?
Rarrie says that few kids change their minds, it there any wonder given the constraints upon RE teachers ?
Imagine you pointed out the inherent racism in Judaism, would you have job the next day ? If you pointed out the effect Sharia law has on women would you have a house ? Does any RE teacher cover the inquisition or witch burning by Christians ?
Atheists in Russia and China have behaved as badly as the Catholic church.
You cannot have intellectual integrity without an assault upon the assumptions and reasoning of your view. Even though British science teaching is pitiful, it enumerates any number of fallacies and errors that people have made over the years, such as believing that atoms could not be broken, the earth being flat, or even getting the direction in which current flows through a wire the wrong way round for over a century. The misuses of science are given great prominence. Literature debates over whether The Merchant of Venice is two mediocre plays nailed together, anti-Semitism or a masterpiece of allusion. So with history, and even PE allows for different views of the same observations.
This is not abstract theory. People act upon religious intolerance becuase partly they genuinely believe that if their superstitions were enforced by law it would be nice for all good people.
someone needs yo point out the reality to them of religion being applied to government. Read up on what "St." Thomas More did for a living. Hint: It wasn't researching new ways to be nice to people. Think fire, torture...
DC - with respect, I do find your views to be typical of the stereotype about RE >teachers, not the reality!
Errr? the part about the parade of festivals was from an earlier post by someone who is an RE teacher.
But this leads me to ask you, what is the objective truth?
OT's are things that I can demonstrate to another person by experiment.
The fact is, that not everything can be proven...
Agreed, and I can prove that mathematically.
I can also prove that some are some things that cannot be proved to unprovable
However, even this view misinterprets what RE should be about.
I fear you are at risk of misinterpreting me. I was careful to say that RE lessons are not always interpreted by kids in the way the teacher intends. Also RE teachers vary like everyone else in ability to get the message across.
Also, I'm sure why you think Jesus was not a historical figure.
To me a historical figure is one for whom there are at the very least first hand accounts. There are none for Jesus, even though he was allegedly hardly subtle in his last few years. The gospels describe riots and specific acts by senior Romans, yet no records.
Have you ever read the 8 facts by EP Saunders?
No. Any good ?
However, I have at best thinly veiled contempt for anyone author who uses the words
?indisputable facts? about any part of history. All records have distortions and omissions, occasionally we find that some things were just made up when we thought them true. It would take a lot to convince me that Caesar didn?t exist, or was a composite character based upon the acts of various people But it could be done.
TBH, we need more kids to do more philosophy
Agreed. Mine are getting this stuff early, but I can?t see what that has to do with RE ?
Philosophy means love of knowledge, the whole point of faith is that facts are secondary. Maybe put it into maths. Modern philsophers have at least basic qualifications in mathematical logic.