campaign for clean school toilets

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Online petition for minimum standards for school toilets

Seems like the kind of thing that should be sorted out at school level. I really don't think they need new legislation on this tbh. If there's a problem, talk to the head.

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Thats better.

Yellow raincoat - Hear what you are saying but even though the school my little ones attend is a very good school there is no getting around the fact that school toilets are grim and the budget for cleaning etc is rubbish.There are H&S rules which govern the staff toilets but not the childrens. If it helps keep the children well then I think it can only be a good thing.

I agree that the doors should have locks and the sanitaryware be in good condition. As for cleaning at least twice a day?? When would that be done then? Another job for us TAs I suppose

Parents can take responsibility as well. The amount of children who don't automatically wash their hands after using the toilets is amazing! And peeing everywhere except in the bowl. Never flushing. Maybe the parents can come and clean up after the culprits?

Another 'canpaign'! Where would the money come from for this...where?

The kids should look after the facilities better

I thinks that the parents may be horrified that some of thier DD's are sticking sanitary towels to cubicle walls instead of placing in the bin provided. I can't imagine that the darlings do this at home. No-one can be paid enough to clean that mess up.

My DD comes home at a lunch time so she can go to toilet. She only uses school toilets if she's really desperate.

Secondary school toilets are the worst. Lack of paper, door locks, towels and even toilet seats make them a grim place.

When exactly is it going to be possible to clean the toilets of a secondary school during the day? They have to be open before school, at break times, lunch times and after school.

They could do it during lesson times, I suppose, but then the cleaners wouldn't have time to clear the corridors and canteen of rubbish and half eaten sarnies, which will no doubt be another H&S ishoo.

Then, of course, there's the problem with students who have toilet passes and can go any time of the day.

Not gonna happen is it?

And FWIW, our staff toilets are disgusting, mainly due to the fact that there appears to be a number of female staff who seriously lack personal hygiene! The student toilets are are nicer!

Blocked, overflowing, no loo roll , wet seats, no soap: in both primary and secondary school toilets in my experience. Yes children should be taught, yes older kids should know better but the bottom line (no pun intended) - if the loo's in your work place or local shopping centre were like this would you use them? - NO I doubt it, but at least (you may) as an adult have a choice. The kids dont.

Who puts them in this grim state in the first place?

Perhaps a rota of pupils can keep them clean...... Teach them a thing or two about housekeeping at the same time

That's a good idea, ILoveTIFFANY.

MaureenMLove, I work in adult education and some of the things I have seen are grimbo. People are disgusting when no one's watching.

An office I used to clean was similarly grim. This woman once went in as I was about to start cleaning, left period blood all over the toilet seat and wall and her tampon on top of the toilet.

Grubby cah.

Yuk! And they say men's/boys toilets are bad!

LOL! I can just imagine the parents of kids who are in charge of cleaning the toilets!

That said, our community service policy, might be a goer. Students who are in seclusion, have to do community service, like picking up litter or emptying bins, so they could do that.

Don't expect my 7 & 4 year olds to clean our loos at home - because they are children. So no wouldn't think they should be doing so at school. Wouldn't expect them to clean the hall floor after lunch or empty the bins either. What I would like is for them to be at school in a safe environment where the spread of disease is minimised as much as is reasonably possible. Is that so strange in the 21st century?

So if they were smearing shitty toilet paper on the cubicle walls then it's ok for someone else to clean it up?

Stop being so precious! The cleaning fairies need paying!

No one, to my knowledge, has died from disentery in a UK school.

And as long as your kids are washing their hands properly, then it's job done.

Wouldn't expect them to clean the hall floor after lunch or empty the bins either

Really? Whay not?

The children should all play a part in cleaning the hall after lunchtime, even if it's a rather lame swish of a broom.

It's no wonder so many of them leave the loos in a state if their parents don't expect them to clean up after themselves elsewhere

To be slightly less arsey, I do agree that school loos can be dire. I know ds's were (despite the very best efforts of the staff) until they were renovated recently. When they're not pleasant children avoid using them, which leads to all sorts of issues (voice of experience here).

Slightly about this but I made a point of checking the loos at the various open evenings and so on I went to when choosing ds's secondary. I appreciate that they were probably given a clean before hand (in case of fellow toilet inspectors) but I felt better knowing that the doors had locks and so on. One (at a boys school) stank so badly of piss from the outside that it seriously contributed to my rejecting it as an option. Really.

Loo paper, soap and hand towels or dryers should be mandatory. I know of several schools in our area where this is not the case.

My two would rather hold it in all day than have a poo at school.

A common sight on threads about school selection is the recommendation to take a look at the loos, with a caveat that obviously recent mess just after a playtime should be ignored, but that there's an obvious difference between that general lack of care and hygiene.

Some schools manage to have high standards, so it's clearly not impossible. And to me it's a no-brained that it should be the norm.

The only solution will ever be that there are men's and women's toilets and all staff and pupils share - even the head teacher. (Like every other public place you can think of.) It would cut down the fear of bullying and stress in loos and if necessary there should be explicit teaching on how to use them properly.

Few primary schools I know of have onsite cleaners during the day, ours comes in after school to clean the toilets and hoover the carpets and before school to wash tables, windows and sweep the groundsetc. However our toilets are usually spotless-apart from the Reception ones where the boys seem unable to use the toilet and seem to spray the floor and walls instead-so the teacher and TAs take it in turns to mop around the bowl during the day! They have all been renovated in the past couple of years-except the staff one which is still rather grim but we spend our money on the children rather than the staff. So the staff might like to shaare the children's toilets but I'm pretty sure the children wouldn't like to share ours

Just having a chuckle at staff sharing children's toilets at our infants' school. Us oldies would never be able to get up off those tiny loos