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Any independent school staff striking next week?

38 replies

conistonoldwoman · 22/11/2011 17:15

Just as it says..they're are loads of fully paid up members of teaching unions working in private schools so wanted to support you lot for joining the day of protest.

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MindtheGappp · 27/11/2011 16:42

I am sure the financial sector is salivating at the opportunity to take on independent sector business.

But it would be quite wrong for the teachers to be unaffected and the whole cost borne by the fee payer. The fee payers have their own pension worries.

mrz · 27/11/2011 16:45

ah but the consumer is always the loser are they not ...

MindtheGappp · 27/11/2011 16:46

Not sure what you mean. Please expand.

TalkinPeace2 · 27/11/2011 16:51

its a bit like all these wonderful new academy schools
that were previously LEA schools
LEAs self insure - ie they do not pay out for premiums, they work on the basis they are so huge they can absorb the cost into repairs.
A single Academy School cannot do that
so for this year and next, the central government has "underwritten" the insurance costs of Academies (around £800,000 per year per large secondary)
BUT
How long till the insurers get a court judgement saying that this is anticompetitive
and umpteen million is extracted from the Education budget into the back pockets of the insurers

pension provision is the same but more so

mrz · 27/11/2011 16:51

I'm merely saying increased costs are always passed onto the consumer nothing complicated or sinister

MindtheGappp · 27/11/2011 16:59

Not always.

The cost borne by employees, whether it a tax increase or pension change, is not passed on, as a rule. Most independent school teachers are on the national pay scale. They do not get a pay rise when taxation rates change.

It is naive to say that costs are always passed into the consumer. That is so not true. Although not directly related to this discussion, profit levels do vary for companies, as we all hear when their quarterly figures are released.

TalkinPeace2 · 27/11/2011 17:05

private schools are not companies (generally) they are charities - at least that is what they tell the Charities Commission to avoid CT

MindtheGappp · 27/11/2011 17:08

Companies in the broadest sense, ie organisations.

mrz · 27/11/2011 17:17

The cost borne by employees, whether it a tax increase or pension change, is not passed on the schools could always give staff a pay increase and pass that on instead Wink

MindtheGappp · 27/11/2011 17:18

Facepalm

mrz · 27/11/2011 17:21

bless Grin

Michaelahpurple · 28/11/2011 23:32

My DS1 is at an independent and am really suprised to hear that they have staff strking, and will be running iwth "skeleton" staffing on Wednesday, and do any of us not want to send our children in and if so please let them know for the sake of the kitchen. Our other school has never had any strike action during previous action. I don't suppose they are planning to give us a day's fees back.....

ElphabaisWicked · 29/11/2011 10:28

We got a letter yesterday to say that although many teachers are union members and they, the head and governors support the strike as an independent school their action would have no effect on the government and their employer (the governors) have no say in the proposals.

Michael when the teachers at my dc's school did go on strike a few years ago over an internal matter (unfair dismissal of teache who was subsequently reinstated) they DID offer us either a days fees or free childcare provision for the day.

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