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Any recent experience of Steiner schools?

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lindasw15 · 28/09/2011 10:33

Hello there,

We are currently trying to decide where to send our 3 1/2 year old son to school next year. Having been a little scared at the amount of pressure that some schools place on kids these days we thought we would investigate all options. Just wondered if any of you had any experience with the steiner school system? I know that there are a lot of old threads on here but just wondered if anyone had any recent input?

Hope to hear from some of you.
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picnicinthewoods · 18/10/2011 13:54

Very little point in asking about steiner schools on forums ime, most people who answer have no experience of steiner schools themselves. The best thing for you to do is visit your local steiner school and make up your own mind. The one near me is excellent at Kindy age (3-6). In the end we just couldnt afford the fees and are HE'ing for the early years and then prob mainstream thereafter.
Good luck! Visit lots of schools and go with your own instinct! Also worth saying that steiner really was just a man of his times.....our local steiner school is very multi-cultural, infact more so than my local manistream school. Its in the most beautiful setting, all the parents are very open minded and not all of them are hippy types atall! Ours goes up to age 12 and the local feeder secondary loves getting steiner students as they are able to think for themselves and love to learn!

Blueink · 12/11/2011 04:39

My dd is at a Steiner school and prior to that, spent a couple of years at a Montessori nursery. Although both "alternatives" to the mainstream, the underpinning philosophies are very different and my experience is that Steiner is less pressured than Montessori.

Pre children: personally educated in the mainstream state system, and remember the intrusion of homework into family life and the stress of tests as a child (much more of it about now!). Vaguely aware of the local Steiner School and heard positive reports from mainstream teachers about the self motivation, creative thinking and contribution to the class from Steiner pupils at A'level.

Post children: went to an open day at one of the Steiner schools but also applied to 6 local state schools. Liked the Steiner school (and dd kept talking about it) but, tbh due to some of the extreme and negative views posted on the internet, felt a bit of trepidation about taking a leap into a different way of doing things after nursery age.

Birth rates really high in our area and due to more local children than school places : ( dd did not get offered a place in ANY state school and was on waiting lists in 3 boroughs. Personally think social aspects of school are important and as home schooling was not a viable option for us, contacted the Steiner school again and they invited us to come in for a meeting. On the way out DH - very much an electronic loving carnivorous skeptic - said, "I like it here even more now than the first time we came!"

When I came in to drop off the application form at pick up time, I got chatting to some parents with children of different ages. The sentiment was "finding out about this place is the best thing that could have happened".

Since starting at the school: dd loves it, when I commented she was lucky to be doing a particular outing she said "I am lucky to go to school every day Mummy!". Despite the fact that Montessori seemed more pressured in one way, her teachers there felt she was advanced and they were finding it difficult to stretch her before she was eligible for school. At Steiner her imagination and interest is captivated and she is fully engaged in learning.

Conversely, some children there have come to Steiner education because they struggled with the academic focus of their mainstream school (state or public/private). The basic Steiner philosophy is "Head, Heart, Hand" as in intellect, emotion, practical. There is an emphasis on a more rounded education, including learning life skills from an early age and so the children (start to) thrive and (re)engage in education rather than switching off.

The children are from diverse backgrounds, multi faith, multi cultural, from parents who receive income support to the very wealthy. Each child is valued as an individual. A disproportionate number of families have bilingual European backgrounds, Italian, French, German, Scandinavian where the Steiner system is more similar to their mainstream than our mainstream system.

Interestingly a very "traditional" primary school teacher and close friend encouraged us in the final decision to go for Steiner education and even more tellingly, a disproportionate number of parents at the school are themselves mainstream teachers who don't want to send their own children through the current system.

Anthroposophy: dd's particular school is open about its historic and philosophical underpinning and provide opportunities for parents who are interested to find out more. I have done quite a bit of reading because I've wanted to find out for myself; my broad conclusion is the concepts are (mis)presented on the internet in a very simplistic and misleading way.

If you are freaked out by the "religious, cultish" (or indeed "health and safety") connotations of someone lighting a candle on a dinner table or you don't believe in telling children stories about Santa or the Tooth fairy, you won't like it. Equally if you want your child to be immersed in technology from a young age and you are looking for academic "hothousing" it isn't for you.

Lastly, parents ARE encouraged to take part in events and support the school but there is no pressure to take part if it isn't for you. In terms of crafts, personally I can't roll a ball of wool let alone knit anything; it's not an issue.

Sorry for such a long post, but I wanted to respond to the OP with another perspective. I felt there was a dearth of real, down to earth experience when I was trying to find out about Steiner education. It took a big push for dd to get to go, she very nearly missed out because of erroneous fears. A week after she started at Steiner, a state place FINALLY came up. Already happily settled and let down by the current state of affairs before she had even started, it really was a case of "thanks, but no thanks".

If after all the negative stuff you have read on the internet you remain open minded, I think it is good to go along to have a look and see how you feel, if you are happy to, take you child with you and finally, go with your instinct.

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sunshine11 · 11/04/2017 20:49

We took our daughter out of an 'outstanding' mainstream primary school after 2.5 terrible years. Both my children are now at the Steiner and they are both enjoying it and doing incredibly well.

The education makes a lot of sense, the delayed start to formal learning, the amount of outdoor time (lots) and the hugely varied lessons. Yes, there is a lot of crafting for the kids but when you understand the reasons behind this (and some of the other things mumsnetter's have so kindly described as 'weird') they actually make a lot of sense.

Children tend to learn subjects to a greater depth than they would at state school where, we all know, the focus is on box-ticking and exam passes. As a result the children tend to do fewer subjects but excel in them. I am amused by the comment about Steiner kids not keeping up at A levels when transferring back to mainstream schools/colleges as this is not my experience - teenagers I know do incredibly well at their chosen specialisms and indeed a few of the kids at our school have gone on the the top UK school to do A levels.

I would suggest go and have a look at a few of the schools, try their 'classroom experiences'. It's not for everyone because there is a commitment expected from parents. For me this is one of the great things, school has a real community feel and so it's a very loving and nurturing, safe environment.

Lowdoorinthewal1 · 12/04/2017 10:01

if you want a softer more child centered aproach montessori might be good for your dc.

Montessori was terrible for my DS. He went to a well respected and lovely Montessori primary school for Nursery and it just didn't suit him at all. They had a long (2hrs I think) 'work' period where the children made their own choices from the activities on the shelves. They needed to use the equipment in a very specific way, but as independently as possible so the adults gave the least support they could. I'm completely on board with all this, and still think it sounds great, but my DS just couldn't cope with it. He regularly came home with bleeding fingers where he'd sat at a table and chewed them through anxiety of not really being sure what to choose next and being a bit lost. In the end he developed some more extreme attention seeking strategies and they started telling me he had behavioural difficulties. Sad

Through circumstance he moved to a very relaxed, non-selective, country prep for Reception. Ever since he has thrived- no hint of behavioural issues, super happy, no anxiety and doing really well (even by MN standards) academically.

I don't think you need a school with a particular gimmick framework (Montessori, Steiner, Reggio etc). Just look for a child centred, unpressured prep that believes in letting children be children.

Lowdoorinthewal1 · 12/04/2017 10:02

Sorry, didn't see that this was a zombie!

nanettawoman · 29/06/2017 14:07

Most Recent Ofted of Rudolf Steiner School Kings Langley who have failed to safeguard children again. reports.ofsted.gov.uk/inspection-reports/find-inspection-report/provider/ELS/117631

Roseredirish · 04/09/2017 21:12

As a mum of two young children who attend the Steiner Academy in Exeter, I want to dispel any rubbish that's been written about the school and Steiner schools in general.
It's not for everyone, let's get that straight. If you're a parent who's hot on their child learning everything by the book and exactly when the development books say they should be learning then it's not for you. If you have your 4 year old booked into extra curricular classes to boost their learning 6 days a week it's probably not for you.
Both my children are in the kindergarten (for children in the preschool age 3 - to those age 6) and they adore it. The grounds are gorgeous, inspiring and full of green spaces, the kindi garden is huge and isn't just a concrete space. They have real trees to climb, mud to dig in and hills to explore. The classes provide lots and lots of natural toys and craft materials which are interesting yet calming at the same time, as there's not an over stimulating amount of colour and stickers all over the walls. They play dress up, paint, hide, climb, get filthy, look at books, tell stories, help to cook and clean, help each other when it comes to dressing and act out plays. The teachers are gentle and calm themselves, always ready to listen to parents despite being majorly child centred. If the teachers seem to busy with children to talk, I just email. They reply quickly. My children are not learning how to read or write yet (they encourage that at age 6 around the time their second set of teeth come through- for good reason) but they know how to prepare meals and cook, they help the teachers clean and tidy, they are extremely sociable and not just with children their exact age, they tell very in depth stories that they've learnt from the teachers, they've learn long poems and songs, come home with beautiful chalk and painted pictures and are currently learning how to finger knit and sew by hand. To me, these skills are invaluable and I would prefer them to have life skills such as cooking and tending to themselves, others and the environment than reading and writing before they are ready to join the majority of the workforce behind a desk.
Steiner schools don't encourage reading and writing before 6/7 but they don't ban it. Same goes for black paints and crayons. They encourage clothes without logos as it influences their play. I've seen it,
It happens constantly. This is one rule I've taken on with relief. There is one gnome that I've seen, and that's a cuddly gnome that comes out at story time to help tell the stories, which the children love. Nothing more.
I can't say much about the older classes but what I've seen of the older children is that they're happy, content to express themselves in terms of clothing which a great deal can't do in mainstream uniform, and socialise with the younger classes a lot more than normal. The teachers seem happy and they seem to have close relationships with the students, helped by the fact they're called by their first names, which helps to take some of the power struggle away.
There are always going to be different types of parents. I think I'm one of the youngest there at 26. Some are majorly crunchy and they're lovely. Some are the opposite of crunchy and are what we call Steiner flexible, and they're lovely too. Parents commute from places all around Devon to bring their kids to the school, that should tell you enough.
Steiner has come a long way in the last 20 years, they are still very traditional in terms of teaching and lack of electronics (which I love!) but understand that children are growing up in a modern world. My impression is that they try and preserve childhood rather than push them through to adulthood faster.
Any questions, please feel free to message me.

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