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Faith Schools - A new approach...?

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Tearaway · 21/07/2011 21:31

Hi all,

Does anyone know what currently distinguishes a faith school from a secular school? Is it simply the regular act of worship i.e. morning assembly/mass or is religion woven into their teachings on a daily basis?

Mine are educated in a secular school so I don't really know.
I was educated in non-selective CofE schools (primary and secondary). I only remember being godly in morning assembly. For the rest of the day, I think we were simply taught our lessons. Have things changed?

The reason I ask is because I've been following the Faith Debate and it strikes me that the easiest solution is not to make all schools secular (not sure that's what parents want) but to make all of them provide for faith of all types in non-selective environment. Religious education in itself does not do this because it takes an unbiased stance whereas I think parents who choose faith schools want their child to receive some active teaching in that particular faith.

Do you think that there might be a case for making all schools non-selective but to require each one to permit regular acts of worship/religious guidance for children who attend? Those who are not religious (or not religious enough to want to worship) could attend some equally morally enlightening session. It would perhaps mean splitting children up along religious lines for one session of the day but otherwise all children would be raised/educated together. Wouldn't need to cost any more than currently because you could make it up to the local religious leaders to provide the religious guidance. If they felt it was important, I'm sure they would fund it or find suitable volunteers.

Any views?

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Tearaway · 25/07/2011 16:28

oops, ignorant me. Before Edith's post I had no idea about the collective worship law. And it seemed odd to me given what I have said about my kids' school. So consulted "google" (that font of all knowledge) and you are absolutely right but apparently it is routinely flouted. I guess mine is one that routinely flouts or interprets the requirement very loosely.

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EdithWeston · 25/07/2011 17:40

Awaiting incoming: but one of the joys of the CofE is that its theology is now so very woolly that even belief in God seems optional.

So as long as the assembly covers some universal themes such as how to be a good friend and neighbour, sharing nicely, respect for the world, etc, then it probably falls within the definition.

MillyR · 25/07/2011 17:43

There are two different issues. Should children be educated about religion in schools? I would say yes, but only as part of teaching about diversity. If one of the point of RE is for us all to get along, then there are lots of other types of human diversity that we should be teaching in schools too. I am surprised that US schools don't teach anything about religion at all.

The second issue is should there be collective worship in schools. I would say no. I don't think for a moment that lots of people would withdraw their children and homeschool them if there was no collective worship. I imagine that many of the people who homeschool in the US don't do so because there is no school worship. They home school to prevent their children being taught about contraception, evolution etc, and also to prevent them from mixing with pupils that they might consider immoral/a bad influence.

TalkinPeace2 · 25/07/2011 18:52

Edith
you are pretty right

Milly
true - the Christian Home Schooling stuff is all about accepting the story one is told and never teaching about having an enquiring mind.
I've met kids who have been through it and they have no initiative at all

exoticfruits · 25/07/2011 19:03

There are no secular state schools in England. They all have to have collective worship of a broadly Christian nature.
A lot is down to the Head as to how they interpret the education acts. Faith schools vary enormously too.

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