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Am I the only one who doesn't agree with yesterdays strike?

79 replies

goodkate · 01/07/2011 15:04

I'm baffled why everyone thinks it was OK to strike yesterday.

It's OK that public sector workers have a really good pension, can retire at 60, live until they are in their mid 80's and expect everyone else to work to pay for it. Thats hardly in the spirit of our "lets stick together in this looming nightmare". Comments and defences please.

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mrz · 03/07/2011 13:33

Actually, a comma would suffice. A semi-colon is overkill.

I thought punctuation would be wasted.

ThaggieMatcher · 03/07/2011 13:34

Has the strike even been mentioned in the news since Thurs??? That's surely the sign of how successful it was non?

Oh well. Better luck next time greedy lefties.

ThaggieMatcher · 03/07/2011 13:35

Yeah whatever mrz. You clearly have no idea what puncuation is correct.

mrz · 03/07/2011 13:35

You obviously missed the BBC news Friday, Saturday and this morning.

Feenie · 03/07/2011 13:39

Confused What's puncuation?

mrz · 03/07/2011 13:39

Oh! or read the DM, Telegraph or Times (or any local newspaper).

ThaggieMatcher · 03/07/2011 13:41

Clearly a type Feenie Hmm

Just because you keep saying it mrz, doesn't mean it's true Wink

ThaggieMatcher · 03/07/2011 13:42

Or maybe even a typo!! Grin

Feenie · 03/07/2011 13:43

Hmm People who live in glass houses......etc

ThaggieMatcher · 03/07/2011 13:43

Why does it surprise me that an internet forum so busy during working hours would be full of socialists... Hmm

mrz · 03/07/2011 13:47

Today is Sunday isn't it?

TableVamp · 03/07/2011 13:59
jabed · 03/07/2011 15:23

Oh dear. Why dont you three ladies take it to TES? You have reduced this to about that level.

mrz · 03/07/2011 16:40

MN often sinks to a level that would get you barred from TES jabed Grin

jabed · 03/07/2011 16:48

MN often sinks to a level that would get you barred from TES jabed

That has not been my experience. However, this type of thread , similar to many I have read on TES could easily result in someone being banned I am sure. But the thing is mez, it seems to have become populated by TES regulars and that is no doubt the reason it has deteriorated.

I no longer post to TES myself. Found there were too many breath catching moments. Whilst I might be in a minority here of a bloke amongst the ladies ( I like ladies. I like them very much ;) the ambience and level of discussion is usually better than that of all those teachers in the TES playground.

Thats just my view.

mrz · 03/07/2011 16:52

I don't think you have enough experience of either forum to make a secure comparison jabed Wink

jabed · 03/07/2011 18:57

Thats where you are wrong mrz. I have considerable experience of TES. Less so of this but I came here to avoid TES and found many nice people , all parents who can share my feelings vis their DC's.
I have had some useful inputs from them re my DS and his schooling including finding out that he didnt actually have to be there below 5 years - something I had misled on by both the local school and the LEA. Now a decent teacher should have told me. But it took a decent parent instead. :)

mrz · 03/07/2011 20:16

Many of the decent parents on MN are also decent teachers Smile but perhaps you should have researched better. In England and Wales, most local authorities have a policy of accepting children into school at the beginning of the term during which the child becomes five. However, the child does not have to attend school until the beginning of the term following their fifth birthday. If the child has a summer birthday this means they start in Y1 rather than in Reception.

jabed · 03/07/2011 21:14

Many of the decent parents on MN are also decent teachers but perhaps you should have researched better. In England and Wales, most local authorities have a policy of accepting children into school at the beginning of the term during which the child becomes five. However, the child does not have to attend school until the beginning of the term following their fifth birthday. If the child has a summer birthday this means they start in Y1 rather than in Reception.

I know thanks. I was told that here on MN when I enquired.
However, the LEA and school misled us into believing that DS had to start school last September because it seems it suited them for some reason ( as they do with many parents it seems).

But it would have been much nicer mrz if you had also explained that back in April when I was making enquiries rather than jumping on a non existent SEN band wagon and promulgating your own agenda .
But the matter is now sorted and closed. A bit like the strike I suppose.

mrz · 04/07/2011 07:42

Is the strike sorted and closed jabed? I was under the impression it had just begun ...
If you had asked back in April I would have told you but as I recall you asked about handwriting difficulties identified by his then class teacher ... research requires asking the correct questions or you may get answers you don't want Wink

jabed · 04/07/2011 08:20

Is the strike sorted and closed jabed? I was under the impression it had just begun ...

Well, as a personal view, I think the unions shot their bolt to early. I think they have made little impact because its too close to the end of term ( after school closed for some). Parents havent exactly felt great effects because this time of year schools are more babysitting service than educational emporiums.

I think the strike was the wrong action at the wrong time. I do not think teachers ( especially - although this isnt exculsively their fight) will get any further support from the public if they continue.

The problem I think, is too many teachers have taken it upon themselves to do too much for free and now it has become an expectation on the part of parents and others that this will continue to the point of impact on their pensions also. Thats what you get.

As for the matter of my DS. That is closed. You jumped to conclusions and shot the bolt on that. I did not say he was having problems. I said I had been told he was having problems but could not find those problems for myself when I examined the matter. You ( like the striking teachers) shot in with an SEN explanation . You did not examine the situation or take on board what I said. Even more so, even though I expanded my situation on MN you shot your bolt again with the same inapproporiate diatribe you had levelled on TES , without reading further.

I think sometimes some teachers spend too much time with SEN children and having SEN children in their classrooms they have forgotten when normal children look like.

So yes, both the teachers strike and my DS's situation are closed

Feenie · 04/07/2011 17:42

Normal children? Shock

mrz · 04/07/2011 17:55

jabed you must learn to read what is written
I recall you asked about handwriting difficulties identified by his then class teacher

Did you or did you not say his then teacher had suggested he had difficulties in this area?

I offered you some ideas for exercises, which offended you, exercises, incidentally, which most good reception classes use with normal children every day.
I'm sorry you are offended by good reception teaching ideas but since you are now home schooling you won't have use for such scary suggestions!

jabed · 04/07/2011 18:28

I am not going to argue with you mrz. I do not need to. Obviously anyone who needs to defend their position as you do here ( on a closed debate) is very insecure.

Suffice to say, your suggestions offended then as they would now because there was no evidence of any issue which required your so called remedial actions. You were making suggestions then and now, out of turn.

As for a good reception teacher. We established very quickly as I am sure you recall that she did not know who my DS was and had in fact confused him with another child in her class when she made her unsubstantiated comments . Comments she later withdrew . Not long after that I withdrew DS from the school . I am now withdrawing from this conversation.