Useless Maisie ABC - any recommendations?

[swedishmum]

I put on a new Maisie ABC DVD with DD (22 months) yesterday. I was appalled at the pronunciation of the sounds - cuh, duh, ruh, huh etc and will write to them about dodgy educational content etc. What I want is a similar one without "uh" added to all the sounds. There's no need to start the learning process wrongly imo - I'm thinking she'll be too young for Jolly Phonics but haven't any experience of it really. I'm not trying to hothouse her or anything, just think that materials for children should be of a decent educational standard.
I'd appreciate your recommendations.
Thanks.

I must be missing something.

Cuh, duh ruh is what you would get with jolly phonics as well isn't it? I think this is what most of them start with/sound like now. Cuh is for cat because that's how the 'c' sounds not how you say the letter.

Are you after the actual letter names instead cee, dee etc???

I know what you mean swedishmum but it's very hard to type, isn't it? Just c rather than cuh or C. So many of them do that. I don't know of anything offhand as mine are too old, but surely there must be something?

in jolly phonics R is 'rrr' though .. and there's no 'uh' really

Personally I wouldn't worry too much at this stage .. DS started with the proper names for letters .. as do most toddlers with the songs they sing and has had no problem picking up phonics

is there anything on the jolly phonics site??

Easier to explain with S - sss rather than suh or ess.

I don't think it's going to be a problem with your 22month old DD though TBH! Apart from the problem of being American, what does Sesame Street do?

ahh OK I get it now - told you I was missing something (-:

sesame street uses letter names not sounds.

Had a feeling it did. (didn't do me any harm as a child though ! )

had a look at the jolly phonics site and I think their videos are only suitable for older children

I agree about the pronunciation on the Maisy vid. Think we used to watch an old Mr Men one which was a bit less regional (I'm assuming it is Neil Morrissy's "problem" rather than the makers not knowing any better).

I'm obviously missing something too, I teach dd with sounds - I also thought that was what jolly phonics did. DD does letterland at nursery and I think that is also sounds?

Yes, but the right sounds - eg 'ssss' not 'suh'. If you say 'snake' you don't say 'suh-nake' you say 'sssnake'. Does that make sense?

I think he pronounces a as uh if I remember rightly. Quite annoying but hasn't affected dd at all. So maybe neither here nor there...

Oh I think I see - I was still thinking 'c' which I guess is a cuh sound - no? but I kow that 'cup' wouldn't be cuh-up - would it? I guess sounds don't really work over text?? as I could be reading the sound differently.

'c' is actually the first sound so no voice in it .. does that make sense

because you wouldn't say cuh-astanets .. you'd just do the 'c' bit

so is 'D' 'dee' or 'duh' - or am I still barking up the wrong tree?

It's just the d bit of duh if that makes sense A very short sound.

But it's a lovely DVD! It's just Maisy! Don't worry about it!

I know it might seem I'm over-reacting but as dd copies everything I'd rather she copied good habits - one of my other 3 is dyslexic and I know how much pronouncing phonemes correctly helps with mapping out words. I agree, the visual part's lovely.

It does help saying them correctly - makes spelling so much more difficult if they are wrong, for example ds would spell "super" as "s-oo-p" because he thinks "p" makes a "puh" sound. It wasn't me who taught him p=puh, but he picked it up anyway!

Quite a lot of the parents at dd's nursery talk about teaching their little ones the alphabet, empahsising that they are doing it correctly using the sounds of the letters, not the names - thay give things like "nuh" for "Nancy" instead of "en" as an example. I am always trying to explain (without looking like a know-it-all!) the the sounds is "nnn" not "nuh"

The point I was making (before I wandered off!) was that if you are keen for your dd to learn letters it is a good idea to start off with the correct phonemes, rather than learning one way, and then having to relearn