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ks1&2 teacher wanting to retrain in early yrs

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2stressed · 08/05/2011 23:31

Does anybody know what, if any retraining is required for a PGCE qualified ks1/ks2 teacher to be able to teach in a nursery?

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NoWittyName · 09/05/2011 10:19

None - If you are primary qualified then that includes EYFS. You may find it a big 'on the job' learn though as things are done very differently. My suggestion is to get some work experience (as long as you can handle the feeling of being a teenager again!) just so you see how things are done.

Good luck!

2stressed · 09/05/2011 21:02

My degree had the option of being split into 2 either EYFS and ks1 or ks1 and ks2. I chose the later so not qualifield to teach in a nursery.

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londonone · 09/05/2011 21:16

If you have QTS you have QTS to teach from EYFS up to KS4!!

emeraldislander · 09/05/2011 21:22

2stressed is right!

cazzybabs · 09/05/2011 21:26

emeraldislander - no she isn't ... if you can get a job in a nursery you are quailifed

londonone · 09/05/2011 21:27

2stressed is wrong!

NoWittyName · 10/05/2011 20:18

If your actual certificate shows QTS (primary) then you are fine for EYFS even if you didn't specialise in that in your PGCE. I specialised EYFS/KS1 (also having your option of doing KS1/KS2) but I am fully qualified to go all the way to end of KS2. If your certificate says QTS (KS1/KS2) then that may be a different issue.

cazzybabs · 12/05/2011 08:22

NoWittyName - you are wrong a teacher once qualified can teach any age group ... no special training needed. We have a secondary trained teacher doing reception - whether you can find people to give you a job without any experience is a different matter

spanieleyes · 12/05/2011 19:04

A PGCE allows you to teach any age groiup from 3 to 18 but, as other posters have said, you need to convince someone that you can! The age range simply shows the area you have specialised in, not the limitations. The only restrictions are for those who hold further education qualifications which, in some instances mean that you can teach 16-18 year olds in a college but not the same aged children in a secondary school!

mumtoaandj · 12/05/2011 19:44

i am ks2upper trained about 2 years ago i looked into eyfs training- there was the eyfs training programme availalbe then that was a compulsory qualification that was being intorduced. this was prior to me falling pregnant and when i did i scrapped beginnning the course- i am not sure if it still exists etc.

mrz · 12/05/2011 19:58

I assume mumtoaandj means the EY Professional Status which is a status introduced by the last government.

Feelingthestrain · 13/05/2011 07:08

There is some truth in what all the replies say, but the confusuion is best sorted by the quote I have put below from the CWDC.

"Go to qualificationslist.cwdcouncil.org.uk or call the helpline on 0300 123 1033 (open Monday - Friday 8am - 8pm)

Important Information regarding EYPS (Early Years Professional Status) and QTS (Qualified Teacher Status)
The Early Years Foundation Stage (EYFS) statutory framework specifically defines both Early Years Professional Status (EYPS) and Qualified Teacher Status (QTS) if gained in the Foundation Stage or Key Stage One as full and relevant qualifications at level 6.

Both EYPS and QTS (gained in Foundation Stage or Key Stage One) therefore fall outside the level 3 mapping process for the new qualifications list and are automatically considered to be full and relevant level 3 qualifications for the purposes of the EYFS.

Practitioners with QTS should, depending on the extent that their training specifically covers working with babies, toddlers and young children under the age of five , consider the need for additional training. CWDC recommends that Qualified Teachers without training in child development from birth to five should undertake EYPS."

mrz · 13/05/2011 17:58

Unless you want to work with under threes there is no need for anyone holding QTS to undergo extra training or indeed to have EYPS.

emeraldislander · 13/05/2011 21:15

sorry ! I meant londonone was right :o

mrz · 14/05/2011 09:06

Once you have achieved QTS, it is legal for you to teach any age range (unless you train in FE), although it can be difficult to move from one age range to another. Most teachers stay within the age ranges they trained to teach. If you want to change age range once you are qualified, you will need to build up a portfolio of evidence to persuade the head teacher you are able to teach a different age range.

www.uclan.ac.uk/information/services/futures/graduates/files/Teacher_Training_2010.pdf

2stressed · 16/05/2011 22:23

Thank you all for taking the time to reply :)

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