Parents rebel against school ban on junk food

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I decide kid's lunchbox

Had to share this with you. My DB was telling me about this earlier - a friend of his works in the school concerned and the reason they've banned juice etc. is because there's too much room for confusion with fizzy, sunny D and other e-numbered shite. The paper version of this newspaper had a big splash about their kid's yuman right to eat crap but apparantly, no information about how their human right to be educated can be seriously affected by them eating shite. Hilarious!

HELLMOUTH LOL, LOL Ive kinda translated that vision into the equivalent in my school! v good.

A portion of baked beans counts as a portion - but even them workers are going on strike this week and some papers have preidicted a shortage!!! Anyway we have just had our cheap tesco brocoli for tea with a pile of pasta!

BSE, we are having brocolli and pasta bake with cheese and bacon sauce!

V impressed - my colleague just told me about a shooting of one student by another in our school carpark with some sort of rifle - he's been arrested and my friend has to testify - I wonder if he'd been eating his vegetables? (Students suffered flesh wounds)

My god!

What the hell is happening when kids do this sort of thing?

they're drinking too much juice (Sunny D, fruit shoots, whatever) & not getting enough exercise.

Bring back National Service & yes Hellmouthcusty, FAB idea to ban 4x4's that aren't properly used.

Would also be happy to ban car journeys under 3 miles providing they build some pavements & cycles paths on my route to work

Love & light all round

Sop its ok for all you mums to sit with you crisps and vodka and cokes and send your kids to bed with organic homemade whole meal bread and water. {grin]
There are probably more chemicals in your tap water than in your cartons of juice BTW, something else for you to worry about, Unless of course you get it from your own natural spring at the bottom of your garden and filter through natural materials.
Best phone social services, a doctor and a dietition (?) as I am about to abuse my kids with a shop bought pizza, glass of coke and a chocolate buttons dessert. Just lock me up and throw away the key.

Thats once they have finished their 5 hrs allocated playstation time.

Well, in the juice there will be plenty of 'chemicals', most of the same ones that are in water, with the exception of cholrine, which is present in minescule quanitities. And to ballence that there will be traces of pesticides in the juice, unless it is organic. There are also sugars present in the juice, which will tend to made it harder for a prson to rehydrate than by using ordinary water.

Water is a 'chemical', we are made up of 'chemicals'.

and tap water is filtered through 'natural' agents, stones and sand , for example.

No sh*t Sherlock. God imagine if your child actually consumed sugar .

am i gunna be really controvtial (god i cant spell) here to say that a little bit of sugar aint gunna hurt anybody, my dd has juice and sometimes reduced calorie tesco own and sometimes a fruit shoot if we'r out, she has a mc D's about once every 2 months and she gets a sip of my coke there. she gets given choc about once a week and a couple of crisps here and there throughout the week, yet she still eats her 5 portions of fruit and veg and has a healthy diet the rest of the time, is this really going to harm my daughter in the dramatic way some of you think?

when she is at school i feel it is my duty to decide what she its and the majority of the time it will be healthy (atm for lunch she usually has a sandwich or pasta and either a banana or an orange) but if as a treat i put in a handful of crisps i dont feel she should have them confiscated!! i do understand that something has to be done, giving a child 3 chocolate bars for lunch is bloody ridiculous but surely there has to be a medium. my daughter has a healthy diet but has a treat every now and then, is that a crime????

Not a crime and I agree. Moderation!

stacey thats about what my children eat too.

Well my kids survived their evil dinner, I don't mind schools having rules about lunches, but we have never had a letter home or any information, the first I knew was when DS came home with a can of tango I put in his lunch as I had ran out of fresh orange and wanted him to have a drink. He said they weren't allowed cans, fair enough but I have never been given this info.

I can't believe that some people think fresh pure orange juice is bad for you, devil juice. Strangely enough my kids don't have scurvy or any form of malnutrition or have ever been dehydrated. They are fit, healthy and active.
We try to give a balanced diet and yes that includes juice, crisps and chocolate biscuits. Neither are overweight and take part in a variety of energatic activities. All in moderation if that was all they ate and never moved from the settee I agree thats going to lead to allsorts of long term health problems.

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it can count as one of the five a day though.

Think most of us agree about the all things in moderation line - but maybe not about what constitutes moderation.

I think most people would agree that moderation is the key - fruit juice is not the devil's work, but it is nowhere near as good and healthy as many people perceive it to be - for a start, it's bad for teeth if kids are drinking it as the default drink all day.

But the question is whether schools have the right to tell parents not to pack juice etc., in lunch boxes. And with a few exceptions (such as kids with eating disorders, SN, etc.,) I think they do. I don't really see that it's any different from telling you that your kids have to wear grey socks. In the real world, if you're a reasonable parent who most of the time goes along with school rules (however silly you might think them), the fact that your kid occasionally wears a pair of black socks instead, is no big deal, unless you encounter a jobsworth. IMO it would be the same with the juice thing. Rules have to be blanket, because exceptions and nuances aren't things you can write down - they're things which rely on personal relationships between schools and parents, iyswim.

Interresting comment about the Sunny D earlier... I used to work (way back, just after the launch) for the company who delivered the muck. (It was where I met Dh, in fact). No-one there would drink it... they cold barely give it away, we knew more than enough about the horrible muck. People chose to pay for drinks rather than have the free Sunny D available, me included.

The stuff had to be left on the shelf for a number of days before it was safe for human consumption, from what i met of the people working there at the time, wouldn't trust them one bit.

there was other stuff, but P 'n' G are a scary animal and I don't want to fight with them.

I mentioned this to my school today btw (Stuck in a long queue for phtographer). Unless kids are statemented, they don't have to (and will not in our school) make exceptions for SN or anything else for that matter, bar religion because they cn be taken to court for that.

So anyone who assumes that Sam et al will get away with a ban on this stuff.... trust me, in SN land it ain't ever that easy

STACEY - we can all eat loads of sugar if we burn it off! So no the odd bit of junk does no harm as long as the calories are burnt off and nutritional requirements are met in other meals.

BLOSS - NATURAL fruit juices contain natural sugars and should be diluted for small children and tots as is better than SUNNY D type juices which yes I think we all agree on that one

BUT my understanding of this thread was to discuss whether a school should or whoever (govern) should be allowed to dictate to parents what goes in their childs lunchbox - I'm for guidlines as I teach and deal with effects of poorly fed/nourished children on a daily basis as I stated in earlier posts the above can lead to poor behaviour/levels of concetration and disrupt lessons for that child and others in the class.

Cal - crossed posts - but yippeee I agree