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for all you infant teachers, is it true

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trace2 · 13/10/2005 21:12

i was told today that when children leave nursary the teachers want them to be able to undo and do buttons up, one of the most important things nursary needs to learn them

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Kathlean · 13/10/2005 21:14

I am getting nagged about this in DS's (4.5) diary.

He can manage the big buttons on his jacket but finds the small ones on his shirt too fiddly yet.

Hulababy · 13/10/2005 21:17

DD starts school next September and can't do buttons yet. Nursery have never mentined it.

LIZS · 13/10/2005 21:17

Well dd can't without a struggle but probably could a large single one if pushed - she's in Reception. ds can only just manage his shirt buttons in year 3.

I would have thought that shoes and zips are more important so will be interested in the responses.

mixed · 13/10/2005 21:19

Well, ds 4y old y goes to school and has difficulties. On PE days he has buttonless clothes. Maybe that was another reason he hated going to nursey and loves it at school, they don't hassle him with these kind of things (and learning, yes, he had to "learn" more at nursery than now in reception.

trace2 · 13/10/2005 21:21

its because when doing pe they have not time to do all the shirts, so if they can do themselfs it safe time

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WigWamBam · 13/10/2005 21:22

It was never mentioned at dd's nursery, and they didn't teach her to do up her buttons (I wouldn't actually have expected them to, either).

Before dd started Reception I had to go and see the teacher and fill in several forms about what she could do for herself, so that the teacher and her assistants knew how much help she would need with things like doing up her buttons, using an knife and fork and so on. The teacher went to great lengths to reassure me that the children would get plenty of help dressing and undressing for PE and playtime, and that it really wasn't a problem if dd wasn't very good at doing it herself. And they have delivered the goods.

Littlefish · 13/10/2005 21:36

Most children in my reception class wear polo shirts, so the buttons are not really an issue. Where children do wear shirts with buttons, we either ask the parents to let them wear polo shirts on PE days, or teach the children to undo just the top two buttons and take the shirts off over their heads like a t-shirt.

Personally, I don't have a problem helping children with top buttons. New shirts at the beginning of the reception year invariably have really stiff top buttons. I struggle to undo them, so there's no chance of the children undoing them .

We do ask parents to spend the summer helping their children become as independent about undressing and dressing themselves. Taking sweatshirts off and putting them on again is a great thing to teach your child. It also really helps us if you teach them how to turn their sweatshirt back the right way in again.

Shoes are important, and we encourage parents to choose velcro shoes, or other shoes that their child can do up independently. In my first class, I had 10 children who had lace-ups and couldn't do them up themselves (obviously!). It used to take ages to do everyone's shoes up after 3 PE lessons a week! Even if your child can't do up their shoes themselves, try and teach them how to put them on the right feet. I'm constantly amazed that children can't "feel" when their shoes are on the wrong feet.

LIZS is right, zips are also a great thing to help your child learn to do. Try and imagine getting 30 children ready for playtimes and lunchtimes when you have 30 zips to do up!

Please don't worry if your child can't dress themselves independently by the beginning of Reception. Children all develop these skills at different times. Just try and give your child as many opportunities as possible to keep practising!

Oh, just another thing! If you have a dd, dress her in socks on PE days - tights are really, really hard to learn to put on!

Sorry for the really long reply.

codface · 13/10/2005 21:36

shoes

codface · 13/10/2005 21:37

AND WIPE THEIR OWN ARSES
A DN OPEN A YOG POT

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codface · 13/10/2005 21:38

our have polos

Littlefish · 13/10/2005 21:38

Yes, as codface has so delicately put it, wiping bottoms is an absolutely essential thing for children to be able to do independently.

LIZS · 13/10/2005 21:40

Ours wear a tracksuit on swimming days and don't change for pe yet.

Littlefish · 13/10/2005 21:49

LIZS - what a sensible idea about the tracksuits! Do they start swimming in Reception?

PeachyClairPumpkinPie · 13/10/2005 22:20

Ours have the option of polo's but mine won't wear them- they can do all but the top buttons tho (Yr 1 and Reception, my eldest 2). They are supposed to wear Tracksuits PE days, but they didnt ask until after I had blown the uniform budget on other stuff so mine haven't got them. TBH (sorry) they look awful anyway, really they do!. They've been dressing themselves since they were two-ish though anyway.

TheBentPolice · 13/10/2005 22:23

eh? dd (2.5) can do buttons!

LIZS · 14/10/2005 11:06

yes, dd is swimming today ! The school has its own indoor pool and dedicated staff. They can also do after school lessons but demand is high and spaces limited.

Weatherwax · 14/10/2005 11:26

dd2 in reception is currently in summer uniform, a button up dress which all in her class manage well. The teacher admits they race the other reception class to get changed and this motivation to get changed works well.

After half term its winter uniform, polo necks and pinifores. They all have problems with this and the teacher admits to streaching the polonecks when she helps get them back on. (Some have moved to winter uniform already and then their are days when the school wants winter uniform on hot days for the school photo's!). I was so pleased when dd's teacher admitted to hating the polo's as much as I do.

Back to the original question, yes dd's nursery was very keen on getting the children ready for school. Shoes, buttons and zips. Practice recommended and done.

trace2 · 14/10/2005 11:28

am glad i was told this now can get ds ready for when he goes to school

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codface · 14/10/2005 13:51

what kids have polos doen up to the top anyway?

Ulysees · 14/10/2005 13:58

DS2 insists on his polo shirt buttons being done up and he's just started reception. I apologised to his lovely teacher and teaching assistant and they said it's not a problem.

codface · 14/10/2005 13:58

aas they turned and rolled their eyes (!)

Ulysees · 14/10/2005 13:59

no they didn't they were lovely. some people are you know

Mimsie · 15/10/2005 09:45

DS is in year one and I am working at teaching him to do his tie by himself and he's pretty much there... but the top button!! he can undo it but no chance with doing it up yet!! and I do struggle myself with it sometimes depending on which shirt he has on!

and indeed as one of you said here he has been told to undo the first few top buttons and then take the shirt off.

TinyGang · 15/10/2005 10:15

Being able to do it is one thing but even if they can do buttons and zips, they can't always do it in the allotted time ie get changed and giggle with friends at the same time. I remember dd's reception class on pe days, and they all used to come out looking very undone and back to front sometimesThe teachers gave a little bit of help but realy left them to it mainly.

I didn't mind it was quite sweet really, and they all seemed to get he hang of it in the end with practice. Dd still struggles mightily with tights though and she's nearly 7. Velcro fastening shoes are a big help for very little ones.

Mind you when ds starts next year - goodness knows how he'll be looking after pe. He can do it, but there's a lot of running about talking rather than doing and it takes him ages some days.

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